I am sorry Linups

>>59449
Sorry for what? Our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our dicks.

>>57415 (OP)
finland is a legitimate part of russian empire

>>59470
Okraina is a legitimate part of Russian Emoire as well. Just you wait.

>>59490
Russia and Ukraine are legitimate parts of American Empire.

>>57415 (OP)
iam thinking off taking it back to russia, because finns dont have western mentality. they are wierd people, so they must have access to russian federation.

>>59943

>finns dont have western mentality

what did you mean by this

>>59952
you dont think western, you think like russian but with pinch of autism.

>>59957
how do you know

>>57415 (OP)
i like finland but many finns are agressive against russians (in internet), that is sad. i have ethnic finnish friends in russia (born in russia), they r good people.

>>59990
No, israel is best country(cuz its smoll)

>>59997
Israel and Finland is most young countries on planet. Both countries was created by professors of universities upon on most modern social and economic theories.

>>59998
Israel is oldest country, i think 3000 years old

I dont think Finland is a country, its russian province which got lost and forgotten

Suomi on hyvää maa, suomalainen ihmiset on kiva ihmiset, mutta mielestäni kaikkien suomalainen ihmiset tarvitsevat ei olla introvertti.
(minä opiskelen suomea kaksi kuutta)

>>60032
quite good for 2 months

>>57415 (OP)
Ylilauta!

>>60090
kiitos paljon.
Jos sinä olet vielä täällä. Voitko sinä kertoa mitä sinä ajatelet Venäjältä (tai +lle?) ja mitä sinä ajatelet vienäjälset ihmiset?
Mistä sinä olet kotoisin?

>>60302
I'm a different guy but I think it's really cute that you are learning Finnish :D I think Russians are good people. However Finnish imageboard websites are typically filled with nationalists and trolls who will tell you otherwise.

Are you going to move to Finland or what is the reason you are learning Finnish?

>Voitko sinä kertoa mitä sinä ajatelet Venäjältä

It is "-stä", which means "about" in this context. So: Venäjästä.

>>60303
Moi, a different guy.
Minä opiskelen suomea kieli, koska minä pidan soumestä. Hän kuulostaa hyvää. IN SOVET RUSSIA WE CALL IT "to do for the soul" (when you do something because you like and don't make profit).

p.s. Miksi milloin minä keskustelen (tai puhua?) suomen kanssa, he vastaavat minulle englantia?

>>60305

> IN SOVET RUSSIA

You realize that Soviet Russia doesn't exist anymore right?

> Miksi milloin minä keskustelen (tai puhua?) suomen kanssa, he vastaavat minulle englantia?

This is because we can see that you are still learning and we want to make sure that you understand what we are saying. There are several small errors in the text you have written. However, that's really good since you are new to the language.
I'm glad that you enjoy learning Finnish. Hopefully it proves out to be beneficial for you some day. Are you interested in learning languages in general or is there a reason Finnish language is special?

>>60302
мне нравится россия и русский люди, которых я говорил. Ну, просто 2 человек. Не знаю, почему россия как интересно для меня. Возможно красивая русская душа. Читаю /int/ и /b/ потому что я ненавижу учиться язык с книгой

Я из юго-восточная финляндия

>>60315
/b/ и /po/ - лучшее, что когда-либо было на 2ch. Хороший выбор.
У тебя есть родственники из России? Русскую литературу читать не любишь?

>>60307

>You realize that Soviet Russia doesn't exist anymore right?

Kyllä. Tämä on paikallinen memes
Ok. Minä ymmärsin. Anteeksi. Suomi ei ole tavallinen kieli. Minun on vaikea oppia kieliä, mutta mutta pidän suomea. Minä en tiedä miksi. Ehkä siksi, että pidän suomen rauhasta.

>>60322
никого знаю из России. я читал преступление и наказание на финнском, я не знаю достаточно русский, что могу читать по русский

>>60346
i dont give a rats ass if my grammar is correct or not. close enough is fine by me

>>60349
if you don't go for perfection you don't need to study languages imo

>>57415 (OP)
it would be a better country if you abolished conscription

>>60363
Finland is not dumb and understands that NATO will not save their miserable asses in future conflicts so with population about half of Moscow it will need every man and pizda to be able to hold a barrel in right way. So conscription is only option.

>>60367
The biggest threat to the sovereignty of Finland is Russia. Russia could take over Finland in a second despite conscription. This is why conscription doesn't make sense.

I personally think being an autonomous part of Russia would make the most sense. However, I'm afraid there aren't many who think the same. If multiculturalism doesn't win, we are headed toward a war. I hope we choose the right side.

>>60379

>The biggest threat to the sovereignty of Finland is Russia.

I dont think so, you are not on the plan.

>>60324
Minä ajattelen, että tämä on jo hyvä. Sinä et tiedä koskaan mitä sinä tarvitset elämässä. Ehkä venäjän kieli on sinulle hyödyllinen.
Mikä on muslimimuuttajien asenne Suomessa? Mikä on parempi ryssa (kuinka tämä sana kirjoitetaan?) tai muslimi?

>>60315
Melankoliaa, ristiriitoja, kaipaus? Puhutko sinä tästä?

>>60379
Я не смогу выразить мысль на финском языке. Мне пока не хватает знания финского языка. Поэтому пишу на английском.

State-owned media do not say anything bad about Finland. Before the war with Ukraine, for several years they told on television what injustice was happening in Ukraine, what is Russophobia in Ukraine, showed reports about crucified Russian children (I don’t know if it was fake or not).
Now we hear news that the Russian language is banned in the Baltic states and recently the level of Russophobia in the Baltic states has grown very much.
I think you should worry only if the media talk about the high level of Russophobia in Finland, because in order to fight the enemy, you need to create an image of a cruel and dishonest enemy.

>>60417
Before visiting 2ch I didn't even know there was a thing called "russophobia" and I still doubt that it exist to any large extent. The only phobia I have encountered is directed toward the Russian government, not the people.
Even if Russia annexed Finland, would it be that bad anyway? It would save us from the endless waves of Middle Eastern immigrants, and at the same time we would be a part of a superpower. My vision of the world is not peace, happiness and one big race, the human race. It could never be that way. We have to take into account the underlying mathematical process that governs life, evolution. This is a struggle for survival and reproduction, and there are populations that I'd rather share the struggle with.

>>60417
generally people are not fond of muslim people, at least from my point of perspective after talking to people and reading stuff on the internet. not many people hate or dislike ryssä unless you go around causing mayhem. it's the old folk mostly who might give some hostile thoughts towards ryssä but they keep them to themselves.

>>60418
wtf how old are you exactly? you must live in some happy-free-go-environment in helsinki or something if you've never even heard of russphobia, let alone experienced it first hand.

>>60379

>I personally think being an autonomous part of Russia would make the most sense

FYI There are proportionally more muslims in Russia than in Europe. There also many immigrants from south. The homicide rate in Russia is higher than EU average. Those immigrants are likely to move to Finland and drop the average monthly wage to standard russian $500/month. Yet, the prices for food and all the stuff will be higher as they are today.

Russian poverty and retardness in not a result of some misfortune, but of Kremlin's politics. They use corruption to keep the distant governors loyal. The law system is inefficient for economic development. Courts are completely corrupted.

The russian model to keep Finland occupied would be to install a loyal suomi governor there. He would be allowed to do anything with locals: taking business away, robbing, imprisoning, killing. Once you revolt against the governor, Kremlin will send troops to suppress the riots.

Russian defense model is quite efficient, yet cruel. Imagine that Sweden declares jihad to Russia and attacks Finland. As you may guess, russian people do not care of you. They call derogatorily call you, estonians and other nothern asians "chuhoncy" meaning stinky dirty bitches literally. Before counter-attacking Kremlin will make some propagandist campaign on TV: "Look what those muslim radicals do to our suomi brothers! They kidnap fins to slavery, they cut their throats. We must come and save them from oppression!" After that they will simply bomb Finland leaving all your cities in ruins. They did with Belarus during WW2. They did it in Chechna in 1995.

>>60451
I would like to retract that statement. I am aware of the corrupt political system of Russia. Political opposition is silenced and psychological operations are used to control the population. I know it would be bad. All I'm saying is that it would save us from mass immigration of refugees. There is only a finite amount of space on Earth. And when there's no space left, we are going to have to fight for it.

>immigrants are likely to move to Finland and drop the average monthly wage

I think Russian labor would operate more efficiently in our advanced economy if taxes and additional regulation wouldn't be imposed on our economy. This is one of the most common arguments for open borders. Also, the average wage is higher in more advanced areas of Russia.

All in all, I think you are exaggerating a bit. It's not like Russians are crying for help in their country.

>>60454

>I think you are exaggerating a bit. It's not like Russians are crying for help in their country.

I can provide proofs and illustrations for any of my statements, just specify what makes you doubt. Russian pride prevents them from crying for help. They never cried even during worse time. Remember the case when finns wanted to provide some humanitarian aid to russians a few years ago? They refused because felt shame that chuhoncy demonstrate superiority by helping russians.

>>60456

>Russian defense model

>they will simply bomb Finland

By the time Sweden declares jihad to Russia and attacks Finland, Finland is a mixed population of Russians and Finns. Russian is taught in schools and Finland is one of the most important economic centers of the country. Do you really think that they will just call us chuhoncy and bomb the their own economy?

Also one thing I find funny is what you describe as "the Russian model."

>The russian model

>install a loyal suomi governor

>He would be allowed to do anything with locals: taking business away, robbing, imprisoning, killing.

Do governors really have these rights in Russia? Do they really do this without any justifiable reason?

Is this Truth? Are Swedes hates Finns?

>>60458

>Do you really think that they will just call us chuhoncy and bomb the their own economy?

They are still proud they have burned Moscow in 1812 before surrendering it to Napoleon.

>Do governors really have these rights in Russia?

Privileges seems to be the correct term. When opposition protestors occupied the Press house building in Hrozny in 2014, Ramzan Kadyrov, the governor of Chechnya, ordered an attack on the building and shot them. He also publicly announced that the families would be kept responsible for their members' actions. He ordered to burn their homes as the punishment for not reporting. There are also many unconfirmed reports of activists being kidnapped by paramilitary, tortured to give out their allies and sometimes returned dead to their relatives.

>>60464
What political opinions do you hold? You are probably not pro-Russian.

>>60483
Is a serial murderer wrong when claiming 2+2=4 ? No deeds no political sympathies of a man can undermine validity of his argument. I am pro-truth and pro-people_being_informed.

>>60464

>They are still proud they have burned Moscow in 1812 before surrendering it to Napoleon.

Гордиться тем, что бросить своих раненых солдат на милость Наполеону это полный пиздец. Россия никогда не считалась с человеческими потерями.
А ты долго жил в России? Или сейчас живешь?

>>60418
Minä ymmärsin.
Mielestäni, vallankaappaus Suomessa on huono idea (for Suomi). Valitettavasti Venäjä ei ole hyöty ja rauha. Venäjän hallitus on arvaamaton hallitus. Minä en tiedä mitä tapahtuu. Pari vuotta sitten kukaan ei tiennyt sotaa (RU sv UA).

>>60419
Minä ymmärsin. Vanha sukupolvi muistaa todennäköisesti vielä talvisodan. Ja tarinoita hänestä (tai sestä?).

>>60418
>>60419
Onko totta, että finnille jokainen Neuvostoliitossa / Venäjällä syntynyt on venäläinen? Ei ole eroa tatarin tai tšetšeenin.

Moskovassa ja Pietarissa ovat paljon migrantia nyt. Suuri kaupinki houkutelevat migrantia. Ihmiset ovat oikein tyytymätön. Hyvin usein konfliktit.

>>60489

>Onko totta, että finnille jokainen Neuvostoliitossa / Venäjällä syntynyt on venäläinen?

Of course there is a distinction between ethnicity and nationality. The stereotypical Russian is of Russian ethnicity, there is no doubt about that. Whether we think about the ethnicity or nationality depends on the context.

>Ihmiset ovat oikein tyytymätön.

Are you openly allowed to express your discontent with the situation?
In Finland, a culture of political correctness has been developing for years. Many people call nationalists racist on social media. It might be still acceptable among the less educated people.
I wish the culture was more conservative but the days of political correctness are here to stay.
In what ways is the culture more conservative in Russia?

>>60492
Minä ymmarsin. Kiitos.

Are you openly allowed to express your discontent with the situation?

http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_10699/d350878ee36f956a74c2c86830d066eafce20149/
Ei. Me emme voi ilmaista vihata. Koska se on syytetty. Nyt venäjällä paljon ihmiset ovat vankilassa maailmankatsomuksestaan.
Enemmän kymmenta voutta takaisin oli paljon taisteluita maahanmuuttajien kanssa, markkinoidensa pogromia. Jopa räjähdyksiä https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Взрыв_на_Черкизовском_рынке

Nyt ei ole vastaavaa. Nyt sanoissa ja teoissa on oltava varovaisia.

>>60596
Jos Venäjä ei välitä edes oman kansansa tulevaisuudesta ja olemassaolosta, ei koko maassa ole juurikaan mitään hyviä puolia.

>>59957
Finally someone described finnish people. Finnish = russian with autism.

>>60676
Thank you for your openness. Hopefully Putin comes to rescue us from liberalism. I watched an interview with Putin in which he said the liberal idea has outlived it's purpose and then criticized globalism. He will never let feminists destroy Russia like they destroyed the West.

>>60681
Russia is a post-feminist country, already destroyed because feminism was part of marxism. It is among the world leaders in the rates of abortion. Also the disparity in rights in favor of females lead russian men to die 12 years earlier than females. Despite of this the retirement age for men is higher in russia. Basically men pay to the retirement fund but never get pension because they die before they retire.

>>60686

>Also the disparity in rights in favor of females lead russian men to die 12 years earlier than females.

I don't buy that, neither do I care. There are more important things in life. The reason men die earlier than women is mostly genetic.

>>60690
What can be more important in life than life itself? You buy into genetic reasons. What is so different in russian genetics from a western europe where men live longer than russian females? I think it is caused by life conditions. Also european females live only 5 years more than men.

>>60691

>it is caused by life conditions

That is true. There are more variables than you think.

>What can be more important in life than life itself?

The existence of our people. When there's no space left, we are going to divide into groups and wage war like we did in the past.

>>60703

>The existence of our people.

We have a saying in the context of elections "hide grandma's ID to save the country". Everything is interconnected. When men do not live as long as females, they become the minority in the voting process. Today an average russian voter is a female above 45 years old. Those old females do not care your future. They are left 10 years to live and their major interest affecting their voting preferences is to get paid their pensions before they die.

Russia ruins its potential to be a superpower. We have such nice history, literature, music and art and at the same time fucked up government. I hope i dont go to jail for this.

>>57415 (OP)
Paska maa.

>>61300
miksi?