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Сто раз уже обсуждали что возможность схватиться за ноги в совокупности с оценочной системой дзюдо и наличия ги порождала ситуации когда 1) два человека брали захваты, понижали центр тяжести и стояли так вечноть 2) хватались за ноги лишь бы взять минимальную оценку а дальше морозились в защите

What happened often times is that judo competitors would grab the legs, get a minor score, and then be defensive once they achieved that score. A lot of the matches were bow, fight for grip, dive for the legs, hope for a low score, and then be defensive for the rest of the match doing just enough to not get called for a shido. It was rare to see a single leg or a double leg score for ippon but back then it didn't matter. The players were coached to fight a certain way because the ippon doesn't matter. Winning does. Judo had lost its identity and that was plain to see between 2004 - 2010.

I contend the problem would have fixed itself if the IJF eliminated the koka and the yuko as the leg grab attacks were frequently given those scores. By eliminating the koka and yuko it would have forced the competitors to go for techniques that have a higher chance at scoring waza-ari and ippon. Statistics show that singles and doubles didn't score waza-ari and ippon very often. If they changed the scoring you'd see a lot of sukui nage and kata guruma which are throws I think Judo misses.

In the lower weight categories, 90+% of matches were nothing but false attacks and shitty shots. People would try to score a koka (the lowest score possible at the time, they eventually got rid of that score entirely) with a low-control leg takedown and then just stall out like a motherfucker. And then all of those guys would sort themselves out, and they'd meet in the finals with a Japanese or Korean player using "honest" judo, and they'd get fucking smashed.

The IJF's initial solution to this problem (which wasn't a problem in the sense of "this strat is too good" but rather "this strat turns all matches into complete dogshit") was to forbid leg attacks EXCEPT as counters or follow-ups. So you could still do a lot of stuff, you just couldn't "shoot." But eventually they took that out, too. Depending on who you ask, it was done to either distance judo from wrestling (which had recently been put in danger of ejection from the Olympics) or to make it easier on refs. Some people would make a false attack, then shoot, thus turning the shot into a follow-up. It can be hard to judge.