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Please explain me the idea "russian patriotism". Why do so many Russians treat "patriotism" as loyalty to whoever currently sits in the Kremlin instead of love for the country itself?
Everywhere else, patriotism means attachment to the land, the language, the culture, the history, the people. You can criticize the government, the president, the elite, even call for their removal, and still be considered a patriot. In fact, in many places that is considered the highest form of patriotism refusing to let the country be run into the ground by incompetent or corrupt people.
In Russia it often looks inverted. Patriotism = simping for the sitting president and the political class. Question the decisions, point out obvious corruption, or suggest the country is being harmed by its own rulers, and suddenly you're a "traitor," "foreign agent," "fifth column," or "not a real Russian." The elite has successfully sold the idea that the state = the nation, and therefore the current office-holders = the Motherland. Blind support is patriotic; independent thought is suspicious.
Examples are endless. Economic decline, demographic collapse, massive capital flight, elite families living abroad while ordinary people are told to tighten belts "for the Motherland" .... all of it gets framed as tests of loyalty rather than failures of governance. People who notice the gap between official rhetoric and reality are attacked more viciously than the actual problems. Opposition figures or just ordinary critics get painted as enemies of Russia itself, not critics of a particular administration.
Compare this to other countries. Americans can call their president a disaster and still fly the flag without being accused of hating America. Poles, Hungarians, Japanese, Israelis argue viciously about their governments while remaining fiercely attached to their nations. Even in more authoritarian places the equation isn't always this total. Why is the Russian version so totalizing?
-When did loving Russia become synonymous with loving the current vertical of power?
-Is a Russian who wants better governance for his own people less patriotic than someone who defends every failure with "but the West is worse"?
-If the elite's interests diverge from the actual long-term interests of the population (and they often do), why is siding with the elite the "patriotic" choice?
-Can a country that systematically punishes internal criticism ever course-correct, or does this version of patriotism just guarantee more of the same?
To be clear. Objectively:
Patriotism is love of one's country, people, culture, and future. It is NOT loyalty to temporary rulers, not silence in the face of corruption or self-destructive policies, and not attacking fellow citizens for noticing problems. The Russian state-promoted version that equates patriotism with blind support for the political elite is objectively sick: it turns the natural feeling of attachment to one's homeland into a tool for protecting power, suppresses the very feedback mechanisms a nation needs to survive, and ultimately harms the country it claims to defend.
I can understand why the russian state tries to use this as a tool, but I don't understand how the fuck can you people suck it up without resistance? Please explain.
Everywhere else, patriotism means attachment to the land, the language, the culture, the history, the people. You can criticize the government, the president, the elite, even call for their removal, and still be considered a patriot. In fact, in many places that is considered the highest form of patriotism refusing to let the country be run into the ground by incompetent or corrupt people.
In Russia it often looks inverted. Patriotism = simping for the sitting president and the political class. Question the decisions, point out obvious corruption, or suggest the country is being harmed by its own rulers, and suddenly you're a "traitor," "foreign agent," "fifth column," or "not a real Russian." The elite has successfully sold the idea that the state = the nation, and therefore the current office-holders = the Motherland. Blind support is patriotic; independent thought is suspicious.
Examples are endless. Economic decline, demographic collapse, massive capital flight, elite families living abroad while ordinary people are told to tighten belts "for the Motherland" .... all of it gets framed as tests of loyalty rather than failures of governance. People who notice the gap between official rhetoric and reality are attacked more viciously than the actual problems. Opposition figures or just ordinary critics get painted as enemies of Russia itself, not critics of a particular administration.
Compare this to other countries. Americans can call their president a disaster and still fly the flag without being accused of hating America. Poles, Hungarians, Japanese, Israelis argue viciously about their governments while remaining fiercely attached to their nations. Even in more authoritarian places the equation isn't always this total. Why is the Russian version so totalizing?
-When did loving Russia become synonymous with loving the current vertical of power?
-Is a Russian who wants better governance for his own people less patriotic than someone who defends every failure with "but the West is worse"?
-If the elite's interests diverge from the actual long-term interests of the population (and they often do), why is siding with the elite the "patriotic" choice?
-Can a country that systematically punishes internal criticism ever course-correct, or does this version of patriotism just guarantee more of the same?
To be clear. Objectively:
Patriotism is love of one's country, people, culture, and future. It is NOT loyalty to temporary rulers, not silence in the face of corruption or self-destructive policies, and not attacking fellow citizens for noticing problems. The Russian state-promoted version that equates patriotism with blind support for the political elite is objectively sick: it turns the natural feeling of attachment to one's homeland into a tool for protecting power, suppresses the very feedback mechanisms a nation needs to survive, and ultimately harms the country it claims to defend.
I can understand why the russian state tries to use this as a tool, but I don't understand how the fuck can you people suck it up without resistance? Please explain.
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Hello internationals anons.
I have a strange hobbi — collect interesting posters or something that, idk what right its calling. I wondering print it on paper and stick on my walls on room but its just dream :c
If you have posters like this, please, post it in my thread.
Or, if you too like it, you may take it too.
Thanx!
I have a strange hobbi — collect interesting posters or something that, idk what right its calling. I wondering print it on paper and stick on my walls on room but its just dream :c
If you have posters like this, please, post it in my thread.
Or, if you too like it, you may take it too.
Thanx!
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In this thread, we share movies, documentaries, TV series, books, comics, and related forms of media that we consider good and optionally discuss them.
Don't forget to add an image, artwork, excerpt, or cover related to the subject you're suggesting to your post.
Don't forget to add an image, artwork, excerpt, or cover related to the subject you're suggesting to your post.
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>BBC nigger
Pepe? BBC is no.
Nigger poop and niggers dying
Niggers are dying, poop
Post produced by poop corporation
nigger dying
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Most people on Earth love Russian women, but not russian men.
I think it's unfair. Are we really that ugly
I think it's unfair. Are we really that ugly
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Казахстана тред.
Предыдущие.
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Предыдущие.
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I'm studying international languages, to be an English professor abroad or perhaps a professional translator.
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Belarus #8 Trasianka edition
Працягваем срачы на конт Беларусі і ўсяго, што тычыцца беларусчыны.
Мінулыя стужкі ў архіве:
#1: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1273195/
#2: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1293679/
#3: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1297921/
#4: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1313822/
#5: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1324902/
#6: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1340232/
#6.1: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1357351/
#7: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1385444/
Часам тут арудуюць тлустыя тралі. Хто пачастуе - лох
Працягваем срачы на конт Беларусі і ўсяго, што тычыцца беларусчыны.
Мінулыя стужкі ў архіве:
#1: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1273195/
#2: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1293679/
#3: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1297921/
#4: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1313822/
#5: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1324902/
#6: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1340232/
#6.1: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1357351/
#7: https://arhivach.vc/thread/1385444/
Часам тут арудуюць тлустыя тралі. Хто пачастуе - лох
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Hey russians, I am an anthropology student with an interest in the various peoples of siberia (ket, nenets, chukchi, ect). Have you ever met people from these ethnic groups? What are they like, how do they live day to day and what is their culture like? what do russians think about them? Im eager to know
