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Why the fuck is this a problem? You guys know there's medication that you can inject into people tw 12 окт, 03:53 136806 В конец треда | Веб

Why the fuck is this a problem? You guys know there's medication that you can inject into people twice a year that makes it nearly impossible for them to contract HIV, right?

I don't understand why you don't just make your gays or drug users take it, because these rates are high enough that people can contract HIV from heterosexual sex in some areas of Russia.

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2 14 окт, 11:57 2 136865

>>136806 (OP)
Mostly couse of child prostitution. Kids tend to underestimate the seriousness of the virus, not been properly informed about it sign's or on how to protect themselves from it, but also they tend to trust the adults who fuck them. They are kids after all. Didn't heard anything about vaccination, interesting stuff, defently not on the budget tho.

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3 14 окт, 12:20 3 136867

>>136865
I don't understand how it could "not be on the budget", the costs associated with having large numbers of people with AIDS are surely much higher than identifying the people most likely to contract it and hitting them with an injection twice a year.

The comment about child prostitution is just baffling to me as well, it can't seriously be that widespread in Russia that you're attributing the HIV rate to it.

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4 14 окт, 12:43 4 136868

>>136867
>identifying the people most likely to contact it
Well, this is just silly, considering that's mostly involved people in illegal trades. You can only offer it to everyone who wants, so they come and get vaccinated no questions asked. But than again, those are not most responsible people. I think the government just decided to take it at this point.
>it can't be seriously that widespread
Why not ? Around 10% of female russian workforce were involved in prostitution, the average age of first sexual experience for females is 14,8 the age of consent is 16, everybody doing it already, why not make some mondy while you young and hot, and have no other way of having your own income? I'm a little bit surprised I need to explain this yo Italian, the stereotype is you are quite free and easy going in sex department, it's we, the northerners who are socially conservative and repressed.

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5 14 окт, 13:00 5 136869

>>136868
>the stereotype is you are quite free and easy going in sex department
Yes, that's why people do not pay for sex generally, which is obviously coercive and creates incentives beyond "I want to have sex". What you are saying is nothing about being free and easy about sex, you're talking about people selling their body for a little money because they see themselves as nothing more than a hole with an expiration date or have very few other options in life. I understand this is an imageboard but I'm trying to be serious here.

>Well, this is just silly, considering that's mostly involved people in illegal trades.
As far as I know being a homosexual is not illegal in Russia, what are the penalties for being a drug user? I imagine more harsh than here, generally when drug users are caught they are not punished the first time but given an official notice from a court that amounts to "Stop this behavior, this is your warning. Here are drug treatment places should you need them".

I of course don't expect Russia to approach such a problem in the same way a Western European country might and you are generally much more harsh in matters of government, I'm more surprised you aren't literally forcing people who are likely to contract and spread a deadly virus to undergo preventative treatment, seems like it could easily be framed as punishment or whatever is culturally needed to have such a thing be accepted in Russia but having AIDs in your country past a certain point stops affecting only the IV drug users and homosexual men/people who do anal sex frequently.

It begins to affect your paramedics who have to treat people, your police officers, your newborn children who come into this life with the virus, etc

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6 14 окт, 14:03 6 136871

>>136869
I'm gonna have to answer you later, not only I can't copy/paste out of big chunks of tex while on the phone, I also don't have an access to mobile internet in most of the town they turned it off to confuse drones. Don't get lost, pasta boy.

7 14 окт, 17:58 7 136873

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>>136869
>Yes, that's why people do not pay for sex generally, which is obviously coercive and creates incentives beyond "I want to have sex"
Well, I didn't saw it like that, but it's an interesting perspective on thing of which I didn't thought. But tbh I think to expect someone to want to have sex with you is overly-optimistic.
>you're talking about people selling their body for a little money because they see themselves as nothing more than a hole with an expiration date or have very few other options in life
That's just a majority of populaton in general, if don't have capital apart from your own body and time or can't sell the products of your labour, you gonna have to sell yourself. You sell yourself to drive a lorry, to stand behind a counter, to sweep the streets, or you can blow a guy. Either way you selling out. Althought all prostitutes I saw have been reporting mental problems, so there is something to it.
>what are the penalties for being a drug user?
Depends on a drug, it's amount, your priors, if you cought with a bag of weed for the first time you can do 15 days in jail, but a gramm too much and your doing 5 year bit for possesion with inted to distribute, it really comes down to that police feel like giving you. They need they quotas feeled too. Sometimes it suits them better to caught a drug diller and not just a junkie. My cousin is doing 5 year bit for doing a drop off of spice. Tbh I dunno why you are so fixated on drugs, there are very little heroin users left and no crockodile ones. It's all spice of mefedron this days. Althought mef does turn you into a whore, maybe it's connected with HIV use ? I wish there was data.
>Stop this behavior, this is your warning. Here are drug treatment places should you need them
No. No such things here. They can put you in asylum, but you don't wanna go there since they can keep you as long as they like. They are "curing" you after all. Drug lords prefer going to Asylum, since they already have a diagnosis and buy they way out. But that's in millions.
>I'm more surprised you aren't literally forcing people who are likely to contract and spread a deadly virus to undergo preventative treatment
Yeah, goverment doesn't care. They more concerned with squeezing money and keep the power. Plus couse the goverment let healthcare system to go that bad people just don't trust them to come with anything not evil or stupid regarding it. Sputnik V was the cleares example there they developed the best drug in quite a short time and couldn't get anyone vaccinated. And we know now that it was the best option, but they just couldn't amount any trust in a system.
>It begins to affect your paramedics who have to treat people, your police officers, your newborn children who come into this life with the virus, etc
I agree, no need to convince me. That's a good idea to monitor it. Just nobody doing it or think of doing here.

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>>136869
>what are the penalties for being a drug user?
Depends on a drug, it's amount, your priors, if you cought with a bag of weed for the first time you can do 15 days in jail, but a gramm too much and your doing 5 year bit for possesion with inted to distribute, it really comes down to that police feel like giving you. They need they quotas feeled too. Sometimes it suits them better to caught a drug diller and not just a junkie. My cousin is doing 5 year bit for doing a drop off of spice. Tbh I dunno why you are so fixated on drugs, there are very little heroin users left and no crockodile ones. It's all spice of mefedron this days. Althought mef does turn you into a whore, maybe it's connected with HIV use ? I wish there was data.
>Stop this behavior, this is your warning. Here are drug treatment places should you need them
No. No such things here. They can put you in asylum, but you don't wanna go there since they can keep you as long as they like. They are "curing" you after all. Drug lords prefer going to Asylum, since they already have a diagnosis and buy they way out. But that's in millions.
>I'm more surprised you aren't literally forcing people who are likely to contract and spread a deadly virus to undergo preventative treatment
Yeah, goverment doesn't care. They more concerned with squeezing money and keep the power. Plus couse the goverment let healthcare system to go that bad people just don't trust them to come with anything not evil or stupid regarding it. Sputnik V was the cleares example there they developed the best drug in quite a short time and couldn't get anyone vaccinated. And we know now that it was the best option, but they just couldn't amount any trust in a system.
>It begins to affect your paramedics who have to treat people, your police officers, your newborn children who come into this life with the virus, etc
I agree, no need to convince me. That's a good idea to monitor it. Just nobody doing it or think of doing here.

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8 16 окт, 02:18 8 136908

>>136873
>Tbh I dunno why you are so fixated on drugs
it's one of the more common means of contracting HIV in most countries, I don't have a fixation it's just a fact that HIV is a bloodborne illness and people using dirty or unclean syringes or sharing with others is a very easy way for somebody to catch AIDs. I was curious about the criminal penalties because if they're very harsh I'd imagine IV drug users would be much less inclined to show up even if you did have a program to "vaccinate" them.
>Plus couse the goverment let healthcare system to go that bad people just don't trust them to come with anything not evil or stupid regarding it.
This is interesting though, I hadn't thought of this.

>mefedron
this shit has started showing up in Western Europe a lot, it's not in Italy yet but people are going crazy with the stuff in Berlin and the Netherlands. I personally tried it once and decided I would never touch it again because it seems too good to be true/too harmful of a drug. I could definitely see it being a factor in people being unsafe about sex though, it's probably the most disinhibiting substance I've ever put in my body.

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9 16 окт, 12:54 9 136911

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>>136908
>it's one of the more common means of contracting HIV in most countries
Maybe in the 90-s, 00-s, even earlie 10-s Heroin was huge and than he went away crocodile was for a solid minute. But those days are gone. I haven't seen a heroin addict in decedes. Use to see them in every projects common hall. Just laying there.
>it's not in Italy yet but people are going crazy with the stuff in Berlin and the Netherlands
Lots of our people there. Might be traveling with them.

10 19 окт, 23:27 10 136989

>>136806 (OP)
You can catch HIV even not through the sexual contact you know
It doesn't matter since no Russian man on this board ever gets bitches

11 20 окт, 13:53 11 136999

>>136806 (OP)
>Why the fuck is this a problem? You guys know there's medication that you can inject into people twice a year that makes it nearly impossible for them to contract HIV, right?
>right
Wrong.
Never heard of such a medication let alone I have no idea what kind of castle moss is used to make it.

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12 29 окт, 19:23 12 137216

>>136806 (OP)
>there's medication
That 'there' is not in russia. Plus, it is gay to be injected.

13 30 окт, 03:18 13 137223

>>136999
> no idea what kind of castle moss is used to make it.
Bill Gates makes it. You can trust him.

14 4 ноя, 02:52 14 137357

In Portugal, there was no data because Public health physicians were concerned about tracking Covid-19. It was a shit show.

15 21 ноя, 19:35 15 137949

>>136999
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Доконтактная_профилактика_ВИЧ

16 28 ноя, 14:38 16 138034

>>136806 (OP)
Guy who was vaccinated with unknown shit is trying to criticize HIV in Russia. Ha ha ha ha ha.

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17 29 ноя, 00:09 17 138043

>>138034
well, whats wrong with it?

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18 29 ноя, 01:26 18 138045

>>138043
Everything is wrong with the vaccines, their ingridients are still kept in secret.
Governments around the world used all media sources to advertise vaccines, but all information that vaccines have deadly side effects was blocked and even death rate from the vaccines was hidden from public or decreased. Many people had no choice, they would lose their work without fucking vaccination.

It wasn't a scientifical discussion about virus or vaccines, but population decrease, lets tell the truth: government propaganda was used to inject unknown shit to people's blood, because of the unknown virus. These virus was so "deadly" that british prime minister and other politicians around the world walked without the mask, how unsafe ! Also some people died from the vaccines, but medical stuff said that it was because of virus. Haha how people are stupid.

It's like slow poison, if you will try to poison person with quick poison community and police will have more proofs that you are the killer, but if you will use slow poison, people will not see when the poison was taken. what was the cause of the death, maybe person died from natural causes or from other cause.

19 30 ноя, 21:36 19 138070

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20 30 ноя, 21:37 20 138071

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21 6 дек, 03:21 21 138208

>>138034
I have not and would not take this medication unless the chances of contracting HIV were really high for some activity. I don't do anything of that nature, but if I found myself being exposed to many strangers blood perhaps I would consider it, because there is literally nothing worse than contracting AIDS man

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22 6 дек, 07:43 22 138211

>>138208
What type of vaccines do you mean ? Covid vaccines are shit.

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