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Hey /int/, Dutch girl here. Not trolling, just trying to understand Why does it so often look like 29 окт, 03:09 137210 В конец треда | Веб

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Hey /int/, Dutch girl here. Not trolling, just trying to understand

Why does it so often look like Russian men are raised to die in wars—so much that you even hear stories of guys being shot by their own side when they refuse or retreat? I’m not trying to farm outrage; I’m genuinely trying to understand this culture of “glorious sacrifice” over basic self-preservation.

Follow-up: is it actually possible to meet a Russian man who isn’t a doormat to the system, who values himself and his life, can say “no” to pointless orders, and chooses dignity over macho posturing? If you’re Russian (or know Russian communities abroad), what does that man look like in real life? How does he set boundaries with family or state, and what helps him keep his backbone education, community, therapy, something else?

Really, not trolling, just curious whether self-respect and staying alive can be the norm, not the exception.

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Its natural selection and breeding. Everyone who had their own options and did not submit were killed by the Tsar, killed by the Bolseviks, killed by Stalin for hundreds of years. The outcome is a nation of cuckolds who can be programmed to do just about anything.

>is it actually possible to meet a Russian man who isn’t a doormat to the system

Yes, outside Russia.

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>>137210 (OP)
We had like an politician here in Germany pretty much saying the same:
Zitat:
Russen europäisch aussehen, dass es keine Europäer sind – im kulturellen Sinne". Russen hätten einen anderen Bezug zu Gewalt und Tod. Sie ...

That is pretty much your question discussed in this article…

I could attack you back with something made up “Holländer sind keine Europäer, das sind Wasserratten”
You don’t like this either, do you?

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>>137212
Literally you ?

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>>137210 (OP)
>Why does it so often look like Russian men are raised to die in wars
Couse they gonna have to fight in them. Some will die, so best be prepared for that as well.
>so much that you even hear stories of guys being shot by their own side when they refuse or retreat?
Well, that happens than the current regime fails to convince it's soldiers that the enemy is worse than them. It's not really the norm you know.
>I’m genuinely trying to understand this culture of “glorious sacrifice” over basic self-preservation
We are not jihadist, people who go to fight in a war are not suicidal, they just know there is a probibility of them dying, but the survival of the group is more impotant.
>is it actually possible to meet a Russian man who isn’t a doormat to the system, who values himself and his life, can say “no” to pointless orders, and chooses dignity over macho posturing?
A liberal than ? Yeah, most of the russian society is pretty liberal. Maybe even more than a western ones considering our reaction to the COVID pandemic. Everyone here is on there own, everyone tries to hustle themselves at a sun away from the praying eyes of the goverment.
>If you’re Russian (or know Russian communities abroad), what does that man look like in real life?
Smth like this: WEBM related.
>How does he set boundaries with family or state
Simple, he doesn't have a family. If you have a family goverment can pin you down with it. Can't have it. Of course, unless you a member of ethnical gang, but we are talking about russians as russkies, an ethnical group, right ?
>what helps him keep his backbone education, community, therapy, something else?
Don't be a part of anything, isolate yourself. The more integrated you in a society in large, the more will they can impose over you.

sage 6 3 ноя, 10:55 6 137333

>Dutch girl
You aren't fooling nobody Nancy, you'll never be a woman

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7 6 ноя, 01:27 7 137432

>>137333
No. I'm not that bald tern-tranny you lot in your AIDS-riddled tranny-addicted Brazil think is a sex symbol, better get ready to take in those Venezuelan shemales, you cock-flashing freak... or go find yourself a boyfriend already, you sick bastard! You're all pseudocatolic's drug-dialers and pagina rapists! God willen delete you all!

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8 6 ноя, 15:41 8 137461

>>137210 (OP)
>Why does it so often look like Russian men are raised to die in wars—so much that you even hear stories of guys being shot by their own side when they refuse or retreat
Russian people are raised from birth in an idea of being an "imperial" nation (even muslim non-russians are benefiting from this and believe in this, although they'd place their tribe before the state), no matter how ridiculous it would look in the eyes of foreigners. They're told in schools and universities that there's no objective truth except the "might makes right", and that the whole nation is bound to serve the state that acts like a second "parent", or, rather, a "boss/sugar daddy".
Myself, being a coward, I understand how they'd submit to the state with a PATIENCE as a highest cultural virtue. "Russian" means "he/she who serves the interests of the nation or does not interfere". My POV as an opportunist and a social reject might be biased though

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>>137432
OW, OW, OW! A BIT TOO MUCH, DON'T YOU THINK?

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>>137210 (OP)
You're asking the wrong crowd, any russian who knows his way around internet and Dvach is already liberal and knows shit about dying in wars
go to russian glubinka and ask some village alcoholics (who'd probably rape you)

11 8 ноя, 16:21 11 137566

>>137210 (OP)
helo show dutch vagenai thank u very much

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>>137210 (OP)
>dutch girl
why your men looks like this?

13 11 ноя, 16:20 13 137698

>>137566
Biggest Enemy of Transsexuals is the Trans Community
I'm a 40yo transsexual woman. When I came to the trans community, I expected it to promote transsexual interests, such as cheap and unconditional access to HRT, FFS and SRS. Yet when I asked several LGBT activists if they could help me obtain HRT meds, such as injectable estradiol, I was told that medical transitioning isn't a priority, in fact promoting acceptance of one's body appears to be a much higher priority for them.

They insisted that social transitioning, without removal of male body parts, is more important than the medical one, and that a bald hairy person with a beard, producing loads of semen is still a valid woman, especially if this creature gets dressed in female clothes.

Since I told them my reason for transitioning was me "failing as a man", they began objecting that it is impossible to fail as a man, and that all men are valid, while my views on masculinity are reactionary and fascist.

The highest priorities for the trans community appears to be the general leftist political activism, such as promotion of BLM and Palestine causes. Me being partially Jewish and indifferent to their off-topic subjects of BLM/Palestine, led to my expulsion from all trans communities and spaces. I got told that I'm a "nazi", "fascist", "transmed/truscum" and not "trans".

Such experience led me to the conclusion that the trans community doesn't share my interests, and I'm indeed not a part of it, but its worst enemy. But I'm still a transsexual, so where is mine community?

Since the trans community is so obsessed with Palestine, I will take it as an example: once it was Jewish land, but then imposters came in and ruined their Great Temple and drove the Jews out. Today Jews returned, just to find that the place of their sacred Temple now has a Mosque. There is a legend in Jewish folklore that once they demolish the mosque and build a temple, the 3rd World War will start, and it will be the war which will end all wars, with Adonai coming to finally judge everyone.

I'm like that Jew who returns to Palestine only to find some ugly structure setup by an unrelated tribe to worship their unrelated god. The solution is obvious: removal of both the imposters and their fake temple and their fake leftist gods.

That naturally makes me gravitate towards supporting Donald Trump, who promises to eradicate the left infested trans community, which no longer reflects the interest of true transsexuals. We real trans just want our normal quiet lives, want our surgeries and our simple hobbies, like knitting and D&D. But is peaceful life possible without a war to earn peace?

Speaking of D&D, it too succumbed to the left wing ideology, and was no longer a game or a place for escapism. Just like the trans community it turned into a religious sect with strict left-informed ideology. A lot of other hobbies suffer such decline. When I asked D&D community on the best practices of playing D&D with AI DM, I got instantly banned, because in their view AI is fascist and used by people without imagination (i.e. me). Well I do imagine that their community ceased being human, and became soulless toxic political agenda breathing mechanical Dragon, which doesn't care about individuals.

Unfortunately, the disease spread so much, the only solution would be draining this swamp at large. We have to reward the lefties for what they did to everything we love and for ruining our dreams. Like in Pinocchio, my dream is becoming a real woman with the help of medical technology, but leftists, like Unabomber, hate technology. Only good behavior can make your dream come true, while the leftists are the definition of bad behavior. Time to close their "Pleasure Island". If they are soylidary with Muslims terrorists, I can be solidary even with the fascists they so hate.

Wish humanity the best,
Nikita Sadkov

13 11 ноя, 16:20 13 137698

>>137566
Biggest Enemy of Transsexuals is the Trans Community
I'm a 40yo transsexual woman. When I came to the trans community, I expected it to promote transsexual interests, such as cheap and unconditional access to HRT, FFS and SRS. Yet when I asked several LGBT activists if they could help me obtain HRT meds, such as injectable estradiol, I was told that medical transitioning isn't a priority, in fact promoting acceptance of one's body appears to be a much higher priority for them.

They insisted that social transitioning, without removal of male body parts, is more important than the medical one, and that a bald hairy person with a beard, producing loads of semen is still a valid woman, especially if this creature gets dressed in female clothes.

Since I told them my reason for transitioning was me "failing as a man", they began objecting that it is impossible to fail as a man, and that all men are valid, while my views on masculinity are reactionary and fascist.

The highest priorities for the trans community appears to be the general leftist political activism, such as promotion of BLM and Palestine causes. Me being partially Jewish and indifferent to their off-topic subjects of BLM/Palestine, led to my expulsion from all trans communities and spaces. I got told that I'm a "nazi", "fascist", "transmed/truscum" and not "trans".

Such experience led me to the conclusion that the trans community doesn't share my interests, and I'm indeed not a part of it, but its worst enemy. But I'm still a transsexual, so where is mine community?

Since the trans community is so obsessed with Palestine, I will take it as an example: once it was Jewish land, but then imposters came in and ruined their Great Temple and drove the Jews out. Today Jews returned, just to find that the place of their sacred Temple now has a Mosque. There is a legend in Jewish folklore that once they demolish the mosque and build a temple, the 3rd World War will start, and it will be the war which will end all wars, with Adonai coming to finally judge everyone.

I'm like that Jew who returns to Palestine only to find some ugly structure setup by an unrelated tribe to worship their unrelated god. The solution is obvious: removal of both the imposters and their fake temple and their fake leftist gods.

That naturally makes me gravitate towards supporting Donald Trump, who promises to eradicate the left infested trans community, which no longer reflects the interest of true transsexuals. We real trans just want our normal quiet lives, want our surgeries and our simple hobbies, like knitting and D&D. But is peaceful life possible without a war to earn peace?

Speaking of D&D, it too succumbed to the left wing ideology, and was no longer a game or a place for escapism. Just like the trans community it turned into a religious sect with strict left-informed ideology. A lot of other hobbies suffer such decline. When I asked D&D community on the best practices of playing D&D with AI DM, I got instantly banned, because in their view AI is fascist and used by people without imagination (i.e. me). Well I do imagine that their community ceased being human, and became soulless toxic political agenda breathing mechanical Dragon, which doesn't care about individuals.

Unfortunately, the disease spread so much, the only solution would be draining this swamp at large. We have to reward the lefties for what they did to everything we love and for ruining our dreams. Like in Pinocchio, my dream is becoming a real woman with the help of medical technology, but leftists, like Unabomber, hate technology. Only good behavior can make your dream come true, while the leftists are the definition of bad behavior. Time to close their "Pleasure Island". If they are soylidary with Muslims terrorists, I can be solidary even with the fascists they so hate.

Wish humanity the best,
Nikita Sadkov

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sage 14 27 дек, 15:58 14 138845

>>137210 (OP)
>Girl
Hi man, u know, girls doesn't exists?
>Why does it so often look like Russian men are raised to die in wars
>so much that you even hear stories of guys being shot by their own side when they refuse or retreat?
Stereotype, what doesn't connect with real. Sometimes teamkills? Yea, but everywhere it does.
>Follow-up: is it actually possible to meet a Russian man who isn’t a doormat to the system, who values himself and his life, can say “no” to pointless orders, and chooses dignity over macho posturing?
Um... What? > Really, not trolling
>If you’re Russian (or know Russian communities abroad), what does that man look like in real life?
Life like life, something must be difference?
>OP:Really, not trolling
>OP in this time:clip images where bully soviet soldiers by german soldiers Wx2 2. OK, we heard you
>OP: just curious whether self-respect and staying alive can be the norm, not the exception.
> understood. Not trolling.

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