You are welcome into this thread where you are supposed to speak english by voice messages by means of https://vocaroo.com . Or at least feel free to write smt into here in English. The communicaton way is optional but voice messaging is mostly welcome
The accent obsession of local anons is hilarious. Why are you worrying about this? You don't go to America or Britain, you live in Russian city and speak Russian most of the time of your daily life. Maybe you will emigrate to America, but you still spend most of your time in post-Soviet community because of your post-Soviet mentality. If you wanna find a job and get out of post-Soviet crowd, then accent ain't not a thing to master, better sharpen your hard skills, bro. You need a JOB in America, not a perfect accent in English. There are a millions of Americans who are living their best lives without having a perfect accent. But many of you, I should say, MOST of you probably won't go to America. That's harsh reality, bro. So stop spreading accent bullshit at this board and enjoy your life in Russia.
Also I would like to share my thought about learning English in general. Many of you don't know why they should learn English. First of all, you should figure this out and then make a plan to reach your goals. There are many ways of learning a new language but chosing among them depends on what are you gonna do with these language skills. If you won't travel, emigrate or speak with foreigners in your country or via Discord, so you don't have to learn speaking English at the first time. So, in that case, you should concentrate on specific language usage - reading, writing, listening. Then find the best materials created for that specific domain of language learning. For example, there are hundreds of textbooks for learning English reading skills. Read Amazon reviews and download some books to find the best among them. Then learn that specific skill of reading. The same for other skills.
One of the best ways to learn (almost) any language are the Pimsleur courses. You can find it on the Rutracker.
Unfortunately 4chan is blocked by my Internet provider. I need a decent place to practice my writing skills.
>>0697
My dude, i am just used to such pronunciation i dont pretend or overplay. Its not my fault that i sound like a native
>>0699
Ive used one for learning French and it was quite helpful. But my english level is higher than the course can suggest so i need something else
>So stop spreading accent bullshit at this board and enjoy your life in Russia.
My dude, i am just used to such pronunciation i dont pretend or overplay. Its not my fault that i sound like a native
>>0699
>the Pimsleur courses
Ive used one for learning French and it was quite helpful. But my english level is higher than the course can suggest so i need something else
>>0703
I didn't listen your recordings, I'm talking about some weird discussions in English learning thread. Some people are obsessed with pronounciation. I'm here not to listen someone trying to 'sound like a native', but to improve my writing skills.
I didn't listen your recordings, I'm talking about some weird discussions in English learning thread. Some people are obsessed with pronounciation. I'm here not to listen someone trying to 'sound like a native', but to improve my writing skills.
>>0782
I read internet articles, posts on Reddit and X, sometimes books, but I think that I have some kind of ADHD, so I can start reading a book and then after 30-40 minutes drop it because I become interested in something else. Maybe that's normal and I should consider reading many books at the same time. Some people do that. My favorite website for reading is English Wikipedia, I really like it. Also I watch & listen YouTube videos at work.
I don't think that I need a perfect speaking skills in English, because at the moment I don't wanna go to America or travel to other countries. English helps me find new information from the world, but I don't have so much motivation to communicate with native English speakers. Maybe that's silly, because talking and chatting with new people can open new perspectives and give many insights (maybe someone changed his life completely because of his foreign friends) but now I prefer to consume information I'm interested in and not chatting too much with English-speaking people in the Internet. I spend enough time with my Russian friends, so English-speaking Internet for me is more like media or encyclopedia than chat room. Even if I go to places like 4chan or Reddit, I wanna find something interesting, but not to communicate with them. Maybe that sounds strange.
Why learn writing skills then? Because sometimes I wanna learn or find something and it's so specific that it's better ask about it in the post than trying to find information about it. The more precise I will write my request, the better answers I will get from people.
I read internet articles, posts on Reddit and X, sometimes books, but I think that I have some kind of ADHD, so I can start reading a book and then after 30-40 minutes drop it because I become interested in something else. Maybe that's normal and I should consider reading many books at the same time. Some people do that. My favorite website for reading is English Wikipedia, I really like it. Also I watch & listen YouTube videos at work.
I don't think that I need a perfect speaking skills in English, because at the moment I don't wanna go to America or travel to other countries. English helps me find new information from the world, but I don't have so much motivation to communicate with native English speakers. Maybe that's silly, because talking and chatting with new people can open new perspectives and give many insights (maybe someone changed his life completely because of his foreign friends) but now I prefer to consume information I'm interested in and not chatting too much with English-speaking people in the Internet. I spend enough time with my Russian friends, so English-speaking Internet for me is more like media or encyclopedia than chat room. Even if I go to places like 4chan or Reddit, I wanna find something interesting, but not to communicate with them. Maybe that sounds strange.
Why learn writing skills then? Because sometimes I wanna learn or find something and it's so specific that it's better ask about it in the post than trying to find information about it. The more precise I will write my request, the better answers I will get from people.
Maybe my punctuation looks very Russian, but I don't know how to fix that. Another thing that I need to improve it's grammar skills. If I'd completely read at least one book in English, maybe both these things become better. If I'd read a grammar textbook, maybe it will be even better. But for now I'm using English to reading and watching only the stuff I wanna to. I have no exams or specific tasks related to English so I haven't enough motivation to improve it and make it more 'standard'.
Bump - build useful monumental pronunciation
>>1167
It looks like I've met a philosopher. We have a section for philosophers there https://2ch.org/ph/
It looks like I've met a philosopher. We have a section for philosophers there https://2ch.org/ph/
>>2706
It's fine, it's just brain cells growing. You know, XXI century is sophisticated.
It's fine, it's just brain cells growing. You know, XXI century is sophisticated.
>in this itt thread niggers and jeets pretend to know grammar but fail
What's good niggers?
What do u think about travel to Philippinen? I'm actually really sorry im a A2 so far. I've learned english about 5 months and i didn't have a much experience in school or college.
What do u think about travel to Philippinen? I'm actually really sorry im a A2 so far. I've learned english about 5 months and i didn't have a much experience in school or college.
>>2748
What's the point of traveling to Phillipines? Are you a SEA-nigger? If you want to get better at English you should travel to English-speaking countries, not some SEA-slum.
What's the point of traveling to Phillipines? Are you a SEA-nigger? If you want to get better at English you should travel to English-speaking countries, not some SEA-slum.
>>2757
I don't think so. I want to chill in warm country in Winter. Probably, i would fuck a asian girl and just chill all the time in a beach without russian snowniggers.
English language is state language in Philippinenes. I guess it will be good if i can improve my english on the vacation. It still better than speak with dvachers. By the way i don't have much money for British or United Nigger State.
>Are you a SEA-nigger?
I don't think so. I want to chill in warm country in Winter. Probably, i would fuck a asian girl and just chill all the time in a beach without russian snowniggers.
>If you want to get better at English you should travel to English-speaking countrie
English language is state language in Philippinenes. I guess it will be good if i can improve my english on the vacation. It still better than speak with dvachers. By the way i don't have much money for British or United Nigger State.
>>0701
It's super easy to post on 4chan even now. But I won't tell you because I don't think it's really what you need.
Did you also leave youtube and telegram after blockings?
It's super easy to post on 4chan even now. But I won't tell you because I don't think it's really what you need.
Did you also leave youtube and telegram after blockings?
>>3468
Yup, I did. I've been using rutube and vkvideo since this shiiieieit. Pity no one speaks English out there :(
Yup, I did. I've been using rutube and vkvideo since this shiiieieit. Pity no one speaks English out there :(
>>4202
Your pronunciation is decent, I can understand you without any strain or effort. Putting aside your grammatical and syntactical errors for now, here are the most glaring mistakes with your pronunciation:
1. You are pronouncing the plural marker as an 's' sound when it should actually be a 'z' sound. That is, "goals" should be pronounced like "goalz". You are making this mistake with every single plural in your recording.
2. You are devoicing word-final consonants. This is a very common trait among Russian speakers because it's how Russian phonology works. But in English it's wrong. For example, you pronounce "have" as something more like "haff" and you pronounce "and" as "ant".
3. You clearly struggle with the dental fricatives (the 'th' sounds). Although this is extremely common among pretty much all foreigners since these sounds don't exist in most languages. Your "with" sounds more like "whizz". Likewise your pronunciation of "another" is wrong.
4. You are getting a lot of vowel sounds slightly wrong. English is known for having a very large inventory of vowel phonemes so this is going to be one of the most challenging things to get right. I can't really be more precise here, all I can tell you is that you're constantly pronouncing the wrong vowels.
Your pronunciation is decent, I can understand you without any strain or effort. Putting aside your grammatical and syntactical errors for now, here are the most glaring mistakes with your pronunciation:
1. You are pronouncing the plural marker as an 's' sound when it should actually be a 'z' sound. That is, "goals" should be pronounced like "goalz". You are making this mistake with every single plural in your recording.
2. You are devoicing word-final consonants. This is a very common trait among Russian speakers because it's how Russian phonology works. But in English it's wrong. For example, you pronounce "have" as something more like "haff" and you pronounce "and" as "ant".
3. You clearly struggle with the dental fricatives (the 'th' sounds). Although this is extremely common among pretty much all foreigners since these sounds don't exist in most languages. Your "with" sounds more like "whizz". Likewise your pronunciation of "another" is wrong.
4. You are getting a lot of vowel sounds slightly wrong. English is known for having a very large inventory of vowel phonemes so this is going to be one of the most challenging things to get right. I can't really be more precise here, all I can tell you is that you're constantly pronouncing the wrong vowels.
>>0747
listen to your recordings
все что нужно знать про здешних а0 имбецилов
>I didn't listen your recordings
listen to your recordings
все что нужно знать про здешних а0 имбецилов
>>4233
listen to
а это не заметил. все что нужно знать про здешних а2 имбецилов, выпендривающихся на а0 имбецилов.
>not to listen someone trying to 'sound like a native',
listen to
а это не заметил. все что нужно знать про здешних а2 имбецилов, выпендривающихся на а0 имбецилов.
>>4236
успокойся обосрышь твое ай диднт листн йор рекордингс - ошибочно. просто признай что ты не знаешь англ
успокойся обосрышь твое ай диднт листн йор рекордингс - ошибочно. просто признай что ты не знаешь англ
>>4237
та я вообще мимо шел, так тебе на ебыч уринировал
та я вообще мимо шел, так тебе на ебыч уринировал
>>4241
я люблю а0 имбецилов и не люблю, когда а2 имбецилы петушатся своим перфект инглишем вместо конструктива
я люблю а0 имбецилов и не люблю, когда а2 имбецилы петушатся своим перфект инглишем вместо конструктива
>>4277
Who art thou to judge me for my way of speaking? Teach yourself to behave, you a homeless puppy
Who art thou to judge me for my way of speaking? Teach yourself to behave, you a homeless puppy
115 Кб, 1080x403>>4242
anddddddd u really need this heavy energy, toxic attention and rude manners?
take a deep breath, count to ten and turn over in your mind- у нас у всех все плохо енглешом:( чо злиться, го учить, го созвоны устраивать
anddddddd u really need this heavy energy, toxic attention and rude manners?
take a deep breath, count to ten and turn over in your mind- у нас у всех все плохо енглешом:( чо злиться, го учить, го созвоны устраивать
>>4296
I`m related to a national minority of Russia so your statement is a bullshit as well as you... Tho u r just a shit
I`m related to a national minority of Russia so your statement is a bullshit as well as you... Tho u r just a shit
187 Кб, 1680x1050>>4297
I guys it the tryt o create need on this ok wee
kendwe.
Реальным шизам в смысле кластеру А и их его финалу - шизофреникам другие люди в принципе непонятны, там нет каких-то определенных представлений или ожиданий. В легких более адекватных формах этим и избеганием соц взаимодействий как таковых все ограничивается, в худших случаях да, нпцы-биороботы их преследуют, ну или на что более впечатляющее фантазии хватит.
I guys it the tryt o create need on this ok wee
kendwe.
Реальным шизам в смысле кластеру А и их его финалу - шизофреникам другие люди в принципе непонятны, там нет каких-то определенных представлений или ожиданий. В легких более адекватных формах этим и избеганием соц взаимодействий как таковых все ограничивается, в худших случаях да, нпцы-биороботы их преследуют, ну или на что более впечатляющее фантазии хватит.
6 Кб, 390x73мож в дс соберемся поиграем в стардью валле
>>4525
it is disgusting and stinks. you seem to be a cannibal - a piece of filth that enjoys devouring feces. why are you that way?
it is disgusting and stinks. you seem to be a cannibal - a piece of filth that enjoys devouring feces. why are you that way?
>>4532
Dumbass which is you is trying to juggle words and meanings but doing it extremely suckingl. I wish you a very liquid ponos so you could drink it as a cocktail
Dumbass which is you is trying to juggle words and meanings but doing it extremely suckingl. I wish you a very liquid ponos so you could drink it as a cocktail
>>4535
dumbass which is the sissy tranny who birthed you. even reading your shit hurts my eyes. kys
dumbass which is the sissy tranny who birthed you. even reading your shit hurts my eyes. kys
>>4536
your dumb eyes hurt because of cumflows that your husband shoot on your silly face. Go get lost and dont bother me while that one who birthed you (son of crowd) is givin me her head
your dumb eyes hurt because of cumflows that your husband shoot on your silly face. Go get lost and dont bother me while that one who birthed you (son of crowd) is givin me her head
>>4532
you dumbass should finish your textbook first before you start insulting others in broken english
you dumbass should finish your textbook first before you start insulting others in broken english
>>4559
Shake my giant dick
Instead of my hand
You pathetic freak
With no kin and land
Even though you dont deserve any poem, i wrote one for u
Shake my giant dick
Instead of my hand
You pathetic freak
With no kin and land
Even though you dont deserve any poem, i wrote one for u
64 Кб, 657x718>>4567
2/10, keep it up
2/10, keep it up
>>4531
It's not needed as long as it's understandable
It's not needed as long as it's understandable
ландун из зэ кэпитал оф брейт гритан
мимо б12
мимо б12
I know this thread is pretty dead but this way I can say I tried at least.
So, what do you think about using LLMs as a conversation buddy? I tried and and it doesn't feel like I'm talking to a human. It says what I prompted when I ask and never when it has something to say like humans do. It says what I wanted to hear, no matter if it's being an arrogant asshole or someone friendly. I asked for it anyway.
Now they're telling me there are some people who fell in love with some LLM, what a BS
So, what do you think about using LLMs as a conversation buddy? I tried and and it doesn't feel like I'm talking to a human. It says what I prompted when I ask and never when it has something to say like humans do. It says what I wanted to hear, no matter if it's being an arrogant asshole or someone friendly. I asked for it anyway.
Now they're telling me there are some people who fell in love with some LLM, what a BS
https://voca.ro/17m8CWIwHwby
Okay let's go
>>6736
I actually think that AI stuff is pretty good for conversations. I personally prefer Deepseek, it can handle quite a lot of scenarios.
Actual person to person communication is essential though
Okay let's go
>>6736
I actually think that AI stuff is pretty good for conversations. I personally prefer Deepseek, it can handle quite a lot of scenarios.
Actual person to person communication is essential though
>>8158
You didn't get the point. An LLM won't tell you things you'd never expect it to bring up on its own, like how its day went or what kind of weirdo it saw yesterday
You didn't get the point. An LLM won't tell you things you'd never expect it to bring up on its own, like how its day went or what kind of weirdo it saw yesterday
>>8225
oui
oui
>>8223
My father did, may his soul be at peace and happy in its new body. but I'm not.
My father did, may his soul be at peace and happy in its new body. but I'm not.
Can anyone here think in english? It doesn't matter if your thoughts are simple af or come out sounding wrong. Isn't the very fact that you're thinking in english what you've been dreaming of for years? Or is it too difficult for you, so you eventually give up?
>>8632
I would not say that. Amount of words is very high and the pronunciation often differs from the spelling; in German lingo, this is handled much more simply.
I would not say that. Amount of words is very high and the pronunciation often differs from the spelling; in German lingo, this is handled much more simply.
>>8953
You again, Bebris lover? There is no such word as "lingo", there are words "language" and "tongue" (last one is not being used so often).
>lingo
You again, Bebris lover? There is no such word as "lingo", there are words "language" and "tongue" (last one is not being used so often).
>>8628
Your question reminded me a movie The Firefox of year 1982, in which the pilot—played by Clint Eastwood—tries to make impression that thinking in Russian is difficult. Although, in reality, Russian is very far from being the most difficult language on the planet Earth, may the Earth live long and prosper. I think there are many bilingual or even more multilingual people in the Canadian province of Quebec who speak and think in both English and French, switching back and forth,
Once I even tried to think in a parallel way, on the both languages at the same time with some success. Probably like threads in CPU.
Your question reminded me a movie The Firefox of year 1982, in which the pilot—played by Clint Eastwood—tries to make impression that thinking in Russian is difficult. Although, in reality, Russian is very far from being the most difficult language on the planet Earth, may the Earth live long and prosper. I think there are many bilingual or even more multilingual people in the Canadian province of Quebec who speak and think in both English and French, switching back and forth,
Once I even tried to think in a parallel way, on the both languages at the same time with some success. Probably like threads in CPU.
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Lately, I've been having some thoughts on casual conversations in Russian, especially online.
On one hand, what you write should be written properly.
On the other hand, a text is a message and thus it should have some personality, some flavour to it. Especially since it's casual.
I'd like to ask for advice on how to strike just the right balance.
On one hand, what you write should be written properly.
On the other hand, a text is a message and thus it should have some personality, some flavour to it. Especially since it's casual.
I'd like to ask for advice on how to strike just the right balance.
>>9019
Just work out your own speaking style or the so-called stylistics. For instance, when i speak russian, i tend to use only pure russian words since my dad has tought me to do so in my native language and i have the same habit in other languages as well
Read good books and absorb words from them. Try writing texts and one day everything is gonna come
Just work out your own speaking style or the so-called stylistics. For instance, when i speak russian, i tend to use only pure russian words since my dad has tought me to do so in my native language and i have the same habit in other languages as well
Read good books and absorb words from them. Try writing texts and one day everything is gonna come
>>9019
You can't just transfer your russian writing style to english. They are different languages. Who would've thought. It's impossible to translate everything with 100% accuracy.
If you can't figure out how to say something, learn more. Shadowing does wonders when it comes to output.
Avoid any Bebris BS at all cost though
You can't just transfer your russian writing style to english. They are different languages. Who would've thought. It's impossible to translate everything with 100% accuracy.
If you can't figure out how to say something, learn more. Shadowing does wonders when it comes to output.
Avoid any Bebris BS at all cost though
>>9025
Why think so? What is being just a parrot repeating after somebody gonna give you? I would get you if you had said that writing essay and doing a dairy gives a result
>Shadowing does wonders when it comes to output.
Why think so? What is being just a parrot repeating after somebody gonna give you? I would get you if you had said that writing essay and doing a dairy gives a result
>>9026
Actually there is much more than three tenses.
Sure, we all are almost believing you, mister sergeant
Actually there is much more than three tenses.
>>I am stronger than ever. I am happy.
Sure, we all are almost believing you, mister sergeant
>>9026
I'm not feel myself strong, because I don't visit a local gym since Russian army. And actually beef is expensive here.
I'm not feel myself strong, because I don't visit a local gym since Russian army. And actually beef is expensive here.
>>9027
Because the more you do something, the better you get at it. Over time. It's that simple. Knowledge and skill are two different things. Think about it.
Because the more you do something, the better you get at it. Over time. It's that simple. Knowledge and skill are two different things. Think about it.
>>9027
I think I know you, hater of speakers. Look where it got you. Right in the middle of nowhere. Your post is full of grammar mistakes, missing articles and weird phrasing.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I can think in english for hours. Writing a couple of pages a day and calling it a day is nothing compared to hours of thinking.
I think I know you, hater of speakers. Look where it got you. Right in the middle of nowhere. Your post is full of grammar mistakes, missing articles and weird phrasing.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I can think in english for hours. Writing a couple of pages a day and calling it a day is nothing compared to hours of thinking.
>>4226
Единcтвенный грамотный поcт в треде, бтв. Вcё оcтальное руглиш разной cтепени паршивоcти, который трудно читать. Думайте.
Единcтвенный грамотный поcт в треде, бтв. Вcё оcтальное руглиш разной cтепени паршивоcти, который трудно читать. Думайте.
Dear Captain Obvious, do you consider Logitech web-cams better than Chinese no-name web-cams?
>>9053
You can give birth to your respacted children and teach them to praise you, when you do something excellent.
You can give birth to your respacted children and teach them to praise you, when you do something excellent.
>>9048
Man, you've confused me with someone and i'm not against speaking practice but imo the shadowing is just a waste of time
https://voca.ro/1834Zg8A6mOv
>I think I know you, hater of speakers
Man, you've confused me with someone and i'm not against speaking practice but imo the shadowing is just a waste of time
https://voca.ro/1834Zg8A6mOv
>>9055
It's obvious you were flexing your english, and now you're frustrated af because nobody liked it
It's obvious you were flexing your english, and now you're frustrated af because nobody liked it
>>9063
What exactly do you want and request? An orator's speech for seven minutes long? Oh, come on, I'm not a twin brother of Arnold Schwarzenegger! I don't want to be in politics, because they don't have honor!
I have to buy a proper webcam firstly, because a videostream from my notebook's web-camera would be probably not good enough.
What exactly do you want and request? An orator's speech for seven minutes long? Oh, come on, I'm not a twin brother of Arnold Schwarzenegger! I don't want to be in politics, because they don't have honor!
I have to buy a proper webcam firstly, because a videostream from my notebook's web-camera would be probably not good enough.
>>9057
That's how you pick up new chunks. Shadowing helps you learn grammar and pronunciation at the same time. I've said it itt before, shadowing was the only method that helped me start thinking in english. That doesn't mean it'll help you learn too. There's no magic method that works the same way for everyone.
>Shadowing is useless
That's how you pick up new chunks. Shadowing helps you learn grammar and pronunciation at the same time. I've said it itt before, shadowing was the only method that helped me start thinking in english. That doesn't mean it'll help you learn too. There's no magic method that works the same way for everyone.
Waddup snow niggers. How're you? I'm A2-tard. i traveled to asian country and there're people speak english very well but i realy didnt understand anything 'cause of asian accent. The last 7 month i listening only general american english. I improved my listening skill but when i reach the asian country i noticed that people dont speak like an american (what is a occasion?). So i really don't understend them. What should i do? If i knew english very well it wouldnt be a problem, but i'm A2-tard so it's real problem.
Also, what do you think about niggers?
Also, what do you think about niggers?
>>9121
First tell us which asian conutry you've moved to
When you struggle with accents, you have to get that your brain is trying to find likeness between the words you know and the words you hear from outside. If your vocabulary is enough rich you're gonna identify much more of what you hear, just because of comparing sounds and pieces of words in senteces with your knowledge
First tell us which asian conutry you've moved to
When you struggle with accents, you have to get that your brain is trying to find likeness between the words you know and the words you hear from outside. If your vocabulary is enough rich you're gonna identify much more of what you hear, just because of comparing sounds and pieces of words in senteces with your knowledge
>>0667 (OP)
А вы знаете какое богатство имеет русский язык? Вот глядите:.
то, это, сё, сие и сиё
Do you know how rich the Russian language is? Take a look:
this, that, this second, that third, and this fifth
P.S. But majority use mostly first and second
А вы знаете какое богатство имеет русский язык? Вот глядите:.
то, это, сё, сие и сиё
Do you know how rich the Russian language is? Take a look:
this, that, this second, that third, and this fifth
P.S. But majority use mostly first and second
I'm A2-being. I simply can't improve my level no matter how hard I'm trying. What should I do?
>>9193
Тут бы было правильнее study, study and - for one more time - study. Наверное.
Тут бы было правильнее study, study and - for one more time - study. Наверное.
>>9192
You should just go and read more books, imho, and after that chat with folks in Idaho
You should just go and read more books, imho, and after that chat with folks in Idaho