>>0653

>здарова с вами ренгар пиздоглаз

Хай! хо! котаны! Независимая игровая аналитика по нетхаку.

>и сегодня я опять не вставил зубы, будем играть в нетхак

Но и ладно, можно и так играть, почти не мешает.

>>0653

>уххх нетхак самая сложная игра на свете

Вообще-то непростая.

>>0653

>от даунидзе который не проходил дальше 5 этажа)

Сам ты даунидзе, Тангар намного глубже проходил.

>>0653

>вот сейчас я открою дверь

Ну а как иначе-то?

>>0653

>спасибо за подписку, wizard_of_yendor_228

Слава Йендору! Нетхаку Слава!

>>0653

>dwarf_iz_maintauna задонатил 50 зоркмидов и сообщает: хватит геноцидить нас пидар!

Давно пора выпустить Платиновую Йендорскую Карту, она была бы популярнее чем убогий МИР.

>>0653

>просто берешь и скачиваешь рулоны ттуреков с nao и смотришь до посинения под чаек.

Ну это понятно, но так не всегда прикольно.

Using a stethoscope towards the bottom of the screen (the 'j' direction) results in the fourth-wall noting line, "You hear a faint typing noise". The player-character must be at the very bottom of the screen, just above the Status Line. Only a few levels permit the player to get to that location, even after digging. That's because level maps are bounded by walls that are "too hard to dig" if the meaningful area is smaller than 80x21.

Getting acid wet (by trying to #dip a potion of acid into a potion of water, for example) causes it to boil and harm the player. If this kills the player, their tombstone will list the cause of death as "elementary chemistry". This is notable in that most causes of death are reported in a matter-of-fact manner approaching Deadpan Snarker-levels ("killed by a grid bug while helpless", "killed by kicking a stethoscope", etc.), so one would be forgiven for not expecting a Take That! directed at the player.

Additionally, throwing a cockatrice corpse up (<) will result in it hitting you on the head and, unless you're wearing a helmet, petrifying you instantly. Cause of death? "Petrified By Elementary Physics"

Vaults full of gold are occasionally found sealed off from most of the dungeon. If you connive your way inside, a vault guard will appear to investigate. In most cases, he'll demand your name; most answers will lead to the guard demanding you leave all the money behind in the vault as the guard seals it back up. If you tell the guard that you're "Croesus" (alternate translations "Kroisos" and "Creosote" can be found acceptable as well), the guard will leave without incident. If you're a lawful-aligned character, you receive a small alignment penalty for lying, unless you actually named your character Croesus, in which case no penalty is incurred. If you try to pass yourself off as Croesus after you've gone to Fort Ludios and killed him, the guard gets angry and attacks. If you're unable to speak (e.g., an amulet of strangulation is choking you), the guard leaves. If you're mimicking an object (most likely having eaten a mimic's corpse, turning you into a pile of gold), the guard also leaves. If hallucinating when you eat a mimic corpse, you turn into an orange. The guard leaves puzzled, wondering "who left that orange in here". And if you're polymorphed into a small enough monster, you can hide under the gold and puzzle the guard again. If you're changing body armor (which can take four turns, or longer), the guard leaves commenting that he'll return when you're not busy.

Certain classes of objects (wands, potions, and rings) have randomized appearances. For example, a "spiky wand" might always be a wand of death in one playthrough, and always a wand of cancellation in the next. However, there are certain ways that the appearance itself is meaningful, regardless of what the item actually turns out to be:

A smoky or milky potion might spawn a djinni or ghost, respectively, when quaffed.
Marble wands are affected by Stone To Flesh. Glass and crystal wands shatter when hit with a force bolt. Metal wands can rust. Copper wands can corrode. Silver wands can be wielded to do silver damage.
Rings set with hard gems can be used to engrave messages. And rings made of stone or gems can be turned into meat rings via the Stone to Flesh spell. Wearing a silver ring and attacking monsters bare-handed will cause silver damage, as long as you're not wearing gloves.

Here's a quick list of some of the more ingeniousnote death messages, along with spoiler'd instructions on what causes them:
Dragged downstairs by an iron ball. You were punished, a status effect which afflicts you with a ball and chain cuffed to one ankle, and you walked in such a way that your iron ball fell down a staircase and dragged you along behind it with fatal effect.
Crunched in the head by an iron ball. You fell in a pit or trap-door while punished, and your iron ball fell on top of you.
Squished under a boulder. You were in a pit, and a boulder was rolled or thrown on top of you.
Petrified by deliberately meeting Medusa's gaze. You were polymorphed into a monster that had a gaze attack, and you attempted to use it on Medusa.
Petrified by trying to help a cockatrice out of a pit. Pretty self-explanatory, but still demonstrates the trope.
Killed by dangerous winds. You were levitating over a Sokoban hole, which yanks you out of the air to prevent cheesing your way past the puzzle, and were killed by the fall damage.
Killed by wedging into a narrow crevice. You were carrying more than 600 weight of items, and you threw an item while levitating in such a way that Newton's 3rd Law forced you through a diagonal space between two walls.
Killed by an unsuccessful polymorph. You polymorphed into a form that would have had 0 or less max HP.
Killed by a residual undead turning effect. You polymorphed into an undead monster and prayed to a non-chaotic god, causing him/her to kill you.
Suicide. Try to teleport to level 0.
Went to heaven prematurely. Try to teleport to level -10 or higher.

For some scrolls and potions, if you use them when you don't yet know what they do and there's nothing available for their effects to act upon (like drinking a potion of monster detection when there aren't any monsters on the level), then you'll get the message "You have a strange feeling for a moment, but it passes". But if this happens while you're hallucinating, you get the message "You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes".

Get hit with a Finger of Death spell while polymorphed into an undead creature and the game informs you that "You seem no deader than before." Get shot with a Wand of Death and it notes that "The wand shoots an apparently harmless beam at you."

If, when trying to bribe a demon lord to leave you alone, you enter a negative number as the amount of gold pieces to give, the demon attacks you for trying to short-change it.

Armor (shirts, body armor, and cloaks) must be put on in the specific order of shirt first, then body armor, then cloak. They must also be taken off in the reverse order. If you're wearing, say, a cursed cloak, you can't unequip the armor under it, and you can't put any armor on over it.
Also, cursed equipment cannot normally be removed in any way other than uncursing them. However, if you are wearing, for example, a cursed armor and you physically change form, such as drinking a potion that transforms you into a dragon ten times your original size, the cursed armor will break and fall off.
Speaking of polymorphing into a Dragon, if you are wearing (magical) Dragon Scale Mail, you will polymorph into a dragon of the colour of the DSM you are wearing, and this will not destroy the armor.

If you're blind, gaze attacks will have no effect on you.

If you are blind, hallucinating, confused, or polymorphed into certain monsters, almost every single message in the game has a unique variant to account for your altered perception, such as describing the sounds instead of the visuals. Sometimes there are four or five different versions for if you have multiple effects at the same time.

In addition to the effect they have when used normally, most wands give special messages when engraving writing onto the floor, which can be used to help identify them. Some even have extra effects.
A Wand of Cancellation or Make Invisible will make any pre-existing engraving vanish. A Wand of Teleportation will teleport a pre-existing engraving somewhere else on the level, with the same message. A wand of Polymorph will change the existing message to a random one. None of these will give any special message if the floor was already blank.
Fire and Lightning, as noted in the Elbereth section, cause permanent engravings as opposed to the temporary engravings from other wands. Lightning will blind you for your efforts.
Sleep and Death both give the same message, "The bugs on the <floor> stop moving!", so you can't tell them apart until you use it on a monster.
Cold, digging, magic missile, striking, slow monster, speed monster, and an empty wand will all have unique messages of their own.
Wands which don't care where you point them, like Wishing and Light, give their normal effect.

The wand of cancellation, which un-magics items and removes many monsters' special attacks, has many special rules attached to it.
It turns most potions into water, but turns a few specific ones into fruit juice instead (as does the unicorn horn) and doesn't change booze, juice, or oil at all.
If you try to put it in a bag of holding, you'll destroy the bag. (Same if you try to put one bag of holding inside another.)
It will have no effect on another wand of cancellation or a spellbook of cancellation.
If you use it on a clay golem, the golem dies instantly (a reference to the original folklore).

Dipping an amethyst into a potion of booze will turn it into a potion of fruit juice (which is yet another pun).

If you're slimed, and thus in the process of turning into a green slime, polymorphing into a green slime cures you. Or rather, it speeds up and finishes the transformation, but makes sure you won't become a mindless monster in the process.

Using a stethoscope towards the bottom of the screen (the 'j' direction) results in the fourth-wall noting line, "You hear a faint typing noise". The player-character must be at the very bottom of the screen, just above the Status Line. Only a few levels permit the player to get to that location, even after digging. That's because level maps are bounded by walls that are "too hard to dig" if the meaningful area is smaller than 80x21.

Getting acid wet (by trying to #dip a potion of acid into a potion of water, for example) causes it to boil and harm the player. If this kills the player, their tombstone will list the cause of death as "elementary chemistry". This is notable in that most causes of death are reported in a matter-of-fact manner approaching Deadpan Snarker-levels ("killed by a grid bug while helpless", "killed by kicking a stethoscope", etc.), so one would be forgiven for not expecting a Take That! directed at the player.

Additionally, throwing a cockatrice corpse up (<) will result in it hitting you on the head and, unless you're wearing a helmet, petrifying you instantly. Cause of death? "Petrified By Elementary Physics"

Vaults full of gold are occasionally found sealed off from most of the dungeon. If you connive your way inside, a vault guard will appear to investigate. In most cases, he'll demand your name; most answers will lead to the guard demanding you leave all the money behind in the vault as the guard seals it back up. If you tell the guard that you're "Croesus" (alternate translations "Kroisos" and "Creosote" can be found acceptable as well), the guard will leave without incident. If you're a lawful-aligned character, you receive a small alignment penalty for lying, unless you actually named your character Croesus, in which case no penalty is incurred. If you try to pass yourself off as Croesus after you've gone to Fort Ludios and killed him, the guard gets angry and attacks. If you're unable to speak (e.g., an amulet of strangulation is choking you), the guard leaves. If you're mimicking an object (most likely having eaten a mimic's corpse, turning you into a pile of gold), the guard also leaves. If hallucinating when you eat a mimic corpse, you turn into an orange. The guard leaves puzzled, wondering "who left that orange in here". And if you're polymorphed into a small enough monster, you can hide under the gold and puzzle the guard again. If you're changing body armor (which can take four turns, or longer), the guard leaves commenting that he'll return when you're not busy.

Certain classes of objects (wands, potions, and rings) have randomized appearances. For example, a "spiky wand" might always be a wand of death in one playthrough, and always a wand of cancellation in the next. However, there are certain ways that the appearance itself is meaningful, regardless of what the item actually turns out to be:

A smoky or milky potion might spawn a djinni or ghost, respectively, when quaffed.
Marble wands are affected by Stone To Flesh. Glass and crystal wands shatter when hit with a force bolt. Metal wands can rust. Copper wands can corrode. Silver wands can be wielded to do silver damage.
Rings set with hard gems can be used to engrave messages. And rings made of stone or gems can be turned into meat rings via the Stone to Flesh spell. Wearing a silver ring and attacking monsters bare-handed will cause silver damage, as long as you're not wearing gloves.

Here's a quick list of some of the more ingeniousnote death messages, along with spoiler'd instructions on what causes them:
Dragged downstairs by an iron ball. You were punished, a status effect which afflicts you with a ball and chain cuffed to one ankle, and you walked in such a way that your iron ball fell down a staircase and dragged you along behind it with fatal effect.
Crunched in the head by an iron ball. You fell in a pit or trap-door while punished, and your iron ball fell on top of you.
Squished under a boulder. You were in a pit, and a boulder was rolled or thrown on top of you.
Petrified by deliberately meeting Medusa's gaze. You were polymorphed into a monster that had a gaze attack, and you attempted to use it on Medusa.
Petrified by trying to help a cockatrice out of a pit. Pretty self-explanatory, but still demonstrates the trope.
Killed by dangerous winds. You were levitating over a Sokoban hole, which yanks you out of the air to prevent cheesing your way past the puzzle, and were killed by the fall damage.
Killed by wedging into a narrow crevice. You were carrying more than 600 weight of items, and you threw an item while levitating in such a way that Newton's 3rd Law forced you through a diagonal space between two walls.
Killed by an unsuccessful polymorph. You polymorphed into a form that would have had 0 or less max HP.
Killed by a residual undead turning effect. You polymorphed into an undead monster and prayed to a non-chaotic god, causing him/her to kill you.
Suicide. Try to teleport to level 0.
Went to heaven prematurely. Try to teleport to level -10 or higher.

For some scrolls and potions, if you use them when you don't yet know what they do and there's nothing available for their effects to act upon (like drinking a potion of monster detection when there aren't any monsters on the level), then you'll get the message "You have a strange feeling for a moment, but it passes". But if this happens while you're hallucinating, you get the message "You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes".

Get hit with a Finger of Death spell while polymorphed into an undead creature and the game informs you that "You seem no deader than before." Get shot with a Wand of Death and it notes that "The wand shoots an apparently harmless beam at you."

If, when trying to bribe a demon lord to leave you alone, you enter a negative number as the amount of gold pieces to give, the demon attacks you for trying to short-change it.

Armor (shirts, body armor, and cloaks) must be put on in the specific order of shirt first, then body armor, then cloak. They must also be taken off in the reverse order. If you're wearing, say, a cursed cloak, you can't unequip the armor under it, and you can't put any armor on over it.
Also, cursed equipment cannot normally be removed in any way other than uncursing them. However, if you are wearing, for example, a cursed armor and you physically change form, such as drinking a potion that transforms you into a dragon ten times your original size, the cursed armor will break and fall off.
Speaking of polymorphing into a Dragon, if you are wearing (magical) Dragon Scale Mail, you will polymorph into a dragon of the colour of the DSM you are wearing, and this will not destroy the armor.

If you're blind, gaze attacks will have no effect on you.

If you are blind, hallucinating, confused, or polymorphed into certain monsters, almost every single message in the game has a unique variant to account for your altered perception, such as describing the sounds instead of the visuals. Sometimes there are four or five different versions for if you have multiple effects at the same time.

In addition to the effect they have when used normally, most wands give special messages when engraving writing onto the floor, which can be used to help identify them. Some even have extra effects.
A Wand of Cancellation or Make Invisible will make any pre-existing engraving vanish. A Wand of Teleportation will teleport a pre-existing engraving somewhere else on the level, with the same message. A wand of Polymorph will change the existing message to a random one. None of these will give any special message if the floor was already blank.
Fire and Lightning, as noted in the Elbereth section, cause permanent engravings as opposed to the temporary engravings from other wands. Lightning will blind you for your efforts.
Sleep and Death both give the same message, "The bugs on the <floor> stop moving!", so you can't tell them apart until you use it on a monster.
Cold, digging, magic missile, striking, slow monster, speed monster, and an empty wand will all have unique messages of their own.
Wands which don't care where you point them, like Wishing and Light, give their normal effect.

The wand of cancellation, which un-magics items and removes many monsters' special attacks, has many special rules attached to it.
It turns most potions into water, but turns a few specific ones into fruit juice instead (as does the unicorn horn) and doesn't change booze, juice, or oil at all.
If you try to put it in a bag of holding, you'll destroy the bag. (Same if you try to put one bag of holding inside another.)
It will have no effect on another wand of cancellation or a spellbook of cancellation.
If you use it on a clay golem, the golem dies instantly (a reference to the original folklore).

Dipping an amethyst into a potion of booze will turn it into a potion of fruit juice (which is yet another pun).

If you're slimed, and thus in the process of turning into a green slime, polymorphing into a green slime cures you. Or rather, it speeds up and finishes the transformation, but makes sure you won't become a mindless monster in the process.