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How do I into Russian? I can't read nor write nor speak it. What's the easiest way of learning most quickly and efficiently to then extrapolate onto learning the whole language? Easiest best rules to know? 
#17772 В конец треда | Веб
#17772 В конец треда | Веб
How do I into Russian? I can't read nor write nor speak it. What's the easiest way of learning most quickly and efficiently to then extrapolate onto learning the whole language? Easiest best rules to know?
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>>17772 (OP)
1. You should recognize familiar words in our language
e.g: beat is the same word in russian, only we pronounce t more palatalized (бить)
2. You should recognize familiar morphemes in our language
e.g: re- in russian is pere (пере - you see, the letter you use for p we use for r. so it's as if pere is kind of bilingua)
3. You should recognize that we all speak the same language, only in different dialects
e.g: as adjectives in french is usually used not before noun, but after it, we use that "to" particible as a suffix: to be = bytt (быть) to do = deyatt, delatt (деять, делать), to sit = sidett (сидеть), to squeal = skulitt (скулить) and so on.
1. You should recognize familiar words in our language
e.g: beat is the same word in russian, only we pronounce t more palatalized (бить)
2. You should recognize familiar morphemes in our language
e.g: re- in russian is pere (пере - you see, the letter you use for p we use for r. so it's as if pere is kind of bilingua)
3. You should recognize that we all speak the same language, only in different dialects
e.g: as adjectives in french is usually used not before noun, but after it, we use that "to" particible as a suffix: to be = bytt (быть) to do = deyatt, delatt (деять, делать), to sit = sidett (сидеть), to squeal = skulitt (скулить) and so on.
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>>17778
lol
That's a pretty good starting point actually. And it's totally correct: it's pretty easy to read Russian once you know all the letters and phonems. After that you should leard some basic russian words and start basic grammar: you should learn the declension and conjurgation.
I'm not expectiong anyone to master it's usage quickly, but you should be able to understand which word refer to which when reading simple russian sentence. And now you can read! Awesome.
Now you should read in Russian, learn new words, improve your grammar and so one. Unfortunatelly, I don't know any books to recommend for starters. At least, don't try Dostoevsky or Tolstoy. Maybe, Pushkin's or Esenin's poetry will be ok.
You can easily find russian movies and cartoons with english subtitles online - there are plenty of them even on youtube. Mosfilm and some other companies share them freely. However, as I understand, there are problems with russian subtitles.
Btw, there is a subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/russian/ for people learning Russian.
>Мыки, Элвыс, Батман
lol
That's a pretty good starting point actually. And it's totally correct: it's pretty easy to read Russian once you know all the letters and phonems. After that you should leard some basic russian words and start basic grammar: you should learn the declension and conjurgation.
I'm not expectiong anyone to master it's usage quickly, but you should be able to understand which word refer to which when reading simple russian sentence. And now you can read! Awesome.
Now you should read in Russian, learn new words, improve your grammar and so one. Unfortunatelly, I don't know any books to recommend for starters. At least, don't try Dostoevsky or Tolstoy. Maybe, Pushkin's or Esenin's poetry will be ok.
You can easily find russian movies and cartoons with english subtitles online - there are plenty of them even on youtube. Mosfilm and some other companies share them freely. However, as I understand, there are problems with russian subtitles.
Btw, there is a subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/russian/ for people learning Russian.
>>17774
Fuck off, retrd, pls, read some basical lingustic books before this bllshit.
Реформатский would be enough.
>1. You should recognize familiar words in our language
>e.g: beat is the same word in russian, only we pronounce t more palatalized (бить)
>2. You should recognize familiar morphemes in our language
>e.g: re- in russian is pere (пере - you see, the letter you use for p we use for r. so it's as if pere is kind of bilingua)
>3. You should recognize that we all speak the same language, only in different dialects
>e.g: as adjectives in french is usually used not before noun, but after it, we use that "to" particible as a suffix: to be = bytt (быть) to do = deyatt, delatt (деять, делать), to sit = sidett (сидеть), to squeal = skulitt (скулить) an
Fuck off, retrd, pls, read some basical lingustic books before this bllshit.
Реформатский would be enough.
>>17788
Mendeleyev discover periodic table and u don't even bother to learn up to tungsten wow
Mendeleyev discover periodic table and u don't even bother to learn up to tungsten wow
>>17772 (OP)
What is the point murca? You just teach hui pizda blyat suka and you have master the language))
>How do I into Russian
What is the point murca? You just teach hui pizda blyat suka and you have master the language))
>>17806
go read some charomutiye if you like dialects so much
>conspirologist "true" knowledge warrior
go read some charomutiye if you like dialects so much
>>17809
magic is even more powerful
and the most powerful are Indoaryans speaking exactly the same language from Ushuaia to Anadyr
magic is even more powerful
and the most powerful are Indoaryans speaking exactly the same language from Ushuaia to Anadyr
66 Кб, 726x452>>17810
Are you butthurting because you suffered dull memorization when you could simply understand etymologic or mere mnemonic bonds instead?
Are you butthurting because you suffered dull memorization when you could simply understand etymologic or mere mnemonic bonds instead?
>>17811
I don't know what you are talking about. I just know lot of linguistic things, you seem to be entry level ordinary person with zadoronovesque загоны. You were asked to make some advices on learning languages, not to shit diarrhea of your spiritual revelations.
Have you ever learned a language? That's the area where repetition (mater studiorum) is your only friend.
I don't know what you are talking about. I just know lot of linguistic things, you seem to be entry level ordinary person with zadoronovesque загоны. You were asked to make some advices on learning languages, not to shit diarrhea of your spiritual revelations.
Have you ever learned a language? That's the area where repetition (mater studiorum) is your only friend.
43 Кб, 600x651>>17813
Nope, Ik ben nativo.
may ah at least compare no to не, ik to i and ich, ben to been, be to быть, native to natal and to nature, or should I obey to your induced brainwashing and drill my intelligence away as you were taught, poor thing nobody cares about your sufferings really
> Have you ever learned a language?
Nope, Ik ben nativo.
may ah at least compare no to не, ik to i and ich, ben to been, be to быть, native to natal and to nature, or should I obey to your induced brainwashing and drill my intelligence away as you were taught, poor thing nobody cares about your sufferings really
>>17814
Seems you are just a grown-up kid too amazed by the concept of kinship of the languages. Calm down, there's nothing to rant about, you /int/'s Chudinov. It's quite natural thing.
do you even Latin
pls don't go to my native /fl/. if everyone of your kind posted to /fl/ we'd run out of piss urinating these retarded posts
Seems you are just a grown-up kid too amazed by the concept of kinship of the languages. Calm down, there's nothing to rant about, you /int/'s Chudinov. It's quite natural thing.
>native to natal and to nature
do you even Latin
pls don't go to my native /fl/. if everyone of your kind posted to /fl/ we'd run out of piss urinating these retarded posts
>>17815
Sure, don't be amazed, stay bored with drilling, cunt
>just a grown-up kid too amazed by the concept of kinship of the languages
Sure, don't be amazed, stay bored with drilling, cunt
>>17816
Boost your interest for this world, it's so interesting and there are many things you haven't discovered yet. :D
I don't know much about you but I'm sure that you just started your way as a kulturträger. Being in the earliest stages is ok but you're supposed to be humble and hide your ignorance while being a novice and don't go full retard "SEE IN IDNONESIAN THE WORD FOR TWO IS DUA JUST LIKE RUSSIAN IS DVA ALERT WE'RE ALL SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE!!"". Be accurate just to not mess things up.
Boost your interest for this world, it's so interesting and there are many things you haven't discovered yet. :D
I don't know much about you but I'm sure that you just started your way as a kulturträger. Being in the earliest stages is ok but you're supposed to be humble and hide your ignorance while being a novice and don't go full retard "SEE IN IDNONESIAN THE WORD FOR TWO IS DUA JUST LIKE RUSSIAN IS DVA ALERT WE'RE ALL SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE!!"". Be accurate just to not mess things up.
>>17817
Enough of that bs, I dare you to bring up a word I won't be able to understand and will have to memorize it by dumbening repetition.
Enough of that bs, I dare you to bring up a word I won't be able to understand and will have to memorize it by dumbening repetition.
>>17818
are you actually learning a language or preparing for a test, you?
OK, make me remember the word "apokekommenos" which is Greek for "castrated", literally skopets.
>understanting the etymology or inventing mnemonics makes you able to remember it in fluent speech
are you actually learning a language or preparing for a test, you?
OK, make me remember the word "apokekommenos" which is Greek for "castrated", literally skopets.
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>>17821
Thank you for kind of proving my point.
The point is you don't start with words you could do without, you begin with simple words, you recognize them whether as parts of borrowings or in original words of similar meaning and sound (chances are they're the same, but you could care less) so when you reach that ugly level of lexics, you can dismember that word into morphemes you already know. Or you may just memorize it, sure thing.
>"apokekommenos"
Thank you for kind of proving my point.
The point is you don't start with words you could do without, you begin with simple words, you recognize them whether as parts of borrowings or in original words of similar meaning and sound (chances are they're the same, but you could care less) so when you reach that ugly level of lexics, you can dismember that word into morphemes you already know. Or you may just memorize it, sure thing.
59 Кб, 640x480Ok, both of you - you make me sick.
Comrades, our foreign friend asks for help in studying Russian - and all you do is brawling, arguing and embarrassing our glorious Motherland. Shame on you.
Comrades, our foreign friend asks for help in studying Russian - and all you do is brawling, arguing and embarrassing our glorious Motherland. Shame on you.
3,1 Мб, 425x425>>17825
The best way to learn Russian is by learning beautiful folk songs of Mother Russia .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnyeTcUYovA
Покупайте ножи, мои дети, они вам всегда пригодятся. А если не пригодятся, евреи вас будут бояться.
Интернационалисты загалдели (гав гав гав)
Интернационалисты осмелели (гав гав гав)
Интернационалисты подкупились
Интернационалисты подстелились
А твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Интернационалисты в депутаты
Интернационалисты в проститутки (и в бляди)
Интернационалисты в либералы
Интернационалисты в журналисты (онанисты/мастурбаторы)
А твой нож разберётся (разберётся твой нож)
Твой нож разберётся (разберётся твой нож)
Твой нож разберётся (суй куда, куда хош)
Твой нож разберётся
Интернационалисты в шоу-бизнес (вот видишь!)
Интернационалисты в синагоги (господи исусе!)
Интернационалисты за зарплатой
Интернационалисты за доносом
А твой нож разберётся (разберётся твой нож)
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Я однажды резала лук и палец порезала, чуть не совсем отрезала (вот я думаю это какая-то часть заговора)
The best way to learn Russian is by learning beautiful folk songs of Mother Russia .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnyeTcUYovA
Покупайте ножи, мои дети, они вам всегда пригодятся. А если не пригодятся, евреи вас будут бояться.
Интернационалисты загалдели (гав гав гав)
Интернационалисты осмелели (гав гав гав)
Интернационалисты подкупились
Интернационалисты подстелились
А твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Интернационалисты в депутаты
Интернационалисты в проститутки (и в бляди)
Интернационалисты в либералы
Интернационалисты в журналисты (онанисты/мастурбаторы)
А твой нож разберётся (разберётся твой нож)
Твой нож разберётся (разберётся твой нож)
Твой нож разберётся (суй куда, куда хош)
Твой нож разберётся
Интернационалисты в шоу-бизнес (вот видишь!)
Интернационалисты в синагоги (господи исусе!)
Интернационалисты за зарплатой
Интернационалисты за доносом
А твой нож разберётся (разберётся твой нож)
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Я однажды резала лук и палец порезала, чуть не совсем отрезала (вот я думаю это какая-то часть заговора)
3,1 Мб, 425x425>>17825
The best way to learn Russian is by learning beautiful folk songs of Mother Russia .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnyeTcUYovA
Покупайте ножи, мои дети, они вам всегда пригодятся. А если не пригодятся, евреи вас будут бояться.
Интернационалисты загалдели (гав гав гав)
Интернационалисты осмелели (гав гав гав)
Интернационалисты подкупились
Интернационалисты подстелились
А твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Интернационалисты в депутаты
Интернационалисты в проститутки (и в бляди)
Интернационалисты в либералы
Интернационалисты в журналисты (онанисты/мастурбаторы)
А твой нож разберётся (разберётся твой нож)
Твой нож разберётся (разберётся твой нож)
Твой нож разберётся (суй куда, куда хош)
Твой нож разберётся
Интернационалисты в шоу-бизнес (вот видишь!)
Интернационалисты в синагоги (господи исусе!)
Интернационалисты за зарплатой
Интернационалисты за доносом
А твой нож разберётся (разберётся твой нож)
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Я однажды резала лук и палец порезала, чуть не совсем отрезала (вот я думаю это какая-то часть заговора)
The best way to learn Russian is by learning beautiful folk songs of Mother Russia .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnyeTcUYovA
Покупайте ножи, мои дети, они вам всегда пригодятся. А если не пригодятся, евреи вас будут бояться.
Интернационалисты загалдели (гав гав гав)
Интернационалисты осмелели (гав гав гав)
Интернационалисты подкупились
Интернационалисты подстелились
А твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Интернационалисты в депутаты
Интернационалисты в проститутки (и в бляди)
Интернационалисты в либералы
Интернационалисты в журналисты (онанисты/мастурбаторы)
А твой нож разберётся (разберётся твой нож)
Твой нож разберётся (разберётся твой нож)
Твой нож разберётся (суй куда, куда хош)
Твой нож разберётся
Интернационалисты в шоу-бизнес (вот видишь!)
Интернационалисты в синагоги (господи исусе!)
Интернационалисты за зарплатой
Интернационалисты за доносом
А твой нож разберётся (разберётся твой нож)
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Твой нож разберётся
Я однажды резала лук и палец порезала, чуть не совсем отрезала (вот я думаю это какая-то часть заговора)
>>17772 (OP)
What for? There is only one valid purpose: providing excercise to you mind (helps against some aging diseseas). But then why not learn a normal language like Spanish or Italian?
What for? There is only one valid purpose: providing excercise to you mind (helps against some aging diseseas). But then why not learn a normal language like Spanish or Italian?
>>17833
Nigga wants to learn Russian, let him learn it. If you wanna be pragmatic about learning languages, then everything aside of English, Spanish, Arabic and Putonghua is useless.
Nigga wants to learn Russian, let him learn it. If you wanna be pragmatic about learning languages, then everything aside of English, Spanish, Arabic and Putonghua is useless.
27 Кб, 410x525>>17837
Well, one never knows what will become the lingua franca of tomorrow. Although I should have listed Malay as well.
Well, one never knows what will become the lingua franca of tomorrow. Although I should have listed Malay as well.
>>17839
Yoruba is among my favorite languages but nah, it woudn't stand a chance; some Bantu language (which one is the most widespread?) would be more plausible for non-Arabic Africa.
Your spoiler: yeah, I never post in sober condition
Yoruba is among my favorite languages but nah, it woudn't stand a chance; some Bantu language (which one is the most widespread?) would be more plausible for non-Arabic Africa.
Your spoiler: yeah, I never post in sober condition
>>17840
Bantu are not as similar as one might think btw.
They have extremely similar grammar up to the point of almost the same class prefixes in Kinyarwanda, Kimbundu and Swahili which are divided by more than thousand of kms.
But you hardly find two tribes with at least 30% coincidences in Swadesh list not to speak of any similarities in Shona and Xhosa.
My explanation:
1. too dumb to remember any word for more than a decade
1. too dumb to detect that their languages have grammar and it might be forgotten as well
Bantu are not as similar as one might think btw.
They have extremely similar grammar up to the point of almost the same class prefixes in Kinyarwanda, Kimbundu and Swahili which are divided by more than thousand of kms.
But you hardly find two tribes with at least 30% coincidences in Swadesh list not to speak of any similarities in Shona and Xhosa.
My explanation:
1. too dumb to remember any word for more than a decade
1. too dumb to detect that their languages have grammar and it might be forgotten as well
>>17842
Yeah, well, the taxonomy of the languages in Sub-Saharan Africa leaves a lot to be desired, they were simply never studied thoroughly - a lot of the subdivisions within the Bantu clusterfuck of a family are just temporary hypotheses.
About that last part: eerm, that's some racist shit. Applied to the Germanics, for example, it turns out they're dumb as fuck: they can't agree how to call a toad, lol. Pretty much every language uses a different word.
Yeah, well, the taxonomy of the languages in Sub-Saharan Africa leaves a lot to be desired, they were simply never studied thoroughly - a lot of the subdivisions within the Bantu clusterfuck of a family are just temporary hypotheses.
About that last part: eerm, that's some racist shit. Applied to the Germanics, for example, it turns out they're dumb as fuck: they can't agree how to call a toad, lol. Pretty much every language uses a different word.
>>17853
Precisely, (Balto-Slavic)mēmas > (early Proto-Slavic)nēmas (with dissimilation) > němŭ (Common Slavic)
And judging from the reflexes, it meant both mute and dumb.
Precisely, (Balto-Slavic)mēmas > (early Proto-Slavic)nēmas (with dissimilation) > němŭ (Common Slavic)
And judging from the reflexes, it meant both mute and dumb.
>>17855
I mean, this is extrapolation, of course, but for Proto-Slavs the relation between can't speak properly - is stupid was most likely familiar enough to produce the respective connotations in daughter languages
I mean, this is extrapolation, of course, but for Proto-Slavs the relation between can't speak properly - is stupid was most likely familiar enough to produce the respective connotations in daughter languages
>>17772 (OP)
1. For grammar rules - look for something like 'getting ready for ЕГЭ'
ЕГЭ is a main exam for schools, so all rules might be covered
2. Then, if you like anime, you can watch it with both sub and dub :D We have a lot of this shit.
3. Finally, easy rule(language basic) to know is that we don't have auxiliaries and you can connect words easily:
You can say - Ты(you) пидор(faggot) - You are faggot
1. For grammar rules - look for something like 'getting ready for ЕГЭ'
ЕГЭ is a main exam for schools, so all rules might be covered
2. Then, if you like anime, you can watch it with both sub and dub :D We have a lot of this shit.
3. Finally, easy rule(language basic) to know is that we don't have auxiliaries and you can connect words easily:
You can say - Ты(you) пидор(faggot) - You are faggot
>>17772 (OP)
I think you want to understand what angry russian schoolboys are yelling to you at CS:GO.
Am I right?
For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSdff--Oz0w
I think you want to understand what angry russian schoolboys are yelling to you at CS:GO.
Am I right?
For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSdff--Oz0w
There is no point in learning foreign languages now. If you can not make money on this knowledge. Because in 10-15 years quality translators will appear on the basis of neural networks.
>>23379
Yeah right. Neither you can not live. In 40-60 years you will be dead anyway so just lay down and die))
Yeah right. Neither you can not live. In 40-60 years you will be dead anyway so just lay down and die))
>>23384
You are uncomfortable, but the world is changing. You can go kill yourself right now. You are no longer needed. With your shitty sarcastic braces.
You are uncomfortable, but the world is changing. You can go kill yourself right now. You are no longer needed. With your shitty sarcastic braces.
Btw I've read through English periodic table.
These retards call Natrium as sodium and Kalium as Potassium.
Dump heads.
These retards call Natrium as sodium and Kalium as Potassium.
Dump heads.
>>23405
Nice remark.
Nevertheless oxygen and hydrogen phonemes sounds terrible in Russian and their names just translation (oxidate and water). And Azot is a Greece word, proposed by Lavoisier which is used in another languages (French, Turkey).
In its turn Sodium and Potassium sounds like redneck slang of handicraft industry instead of proper chemistry terms.
Nice remark.
Nevertheless oxygen and hydrogen phonemes sounds terrible in Russian and their names just translation (oxidate and water). And Azot is a Greece word, proposed by Lavoisier which is used in another languages (French, Turkey).
In its turn Sodium and Potassium sounds like redneck slang of handicraft industry instead of proper chemistry terms.
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