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Jesus fucking christ when will you Russians finally kill him?
10 71961
>>1934
He is, but the West chooses to turn a blind eye to it, since he is a tool. They need a Putin's "rival", but not a person who calls people cockroaches, flies, rodents, kikes, black-assed, untranslatable insults and organizes nationalist rallies.
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2020/12/15/amanpour-alexey-navalny-poison-russia-putin.cnn 14:34
Here Navalny is confronted with a question about his views, and he lies about being friend to migrant workers. He is a big liar.
Saying the blogger is a Putin's rival is wrong. Have you heard the phrase they coined? The man Vladimir Putin fears most. It's rubbish. Media which say this to you take you for a fool. As Vladimir Putin said today, it's a common trick Navalny uses — to attack top government officials to get attention, and pretend you are someone's rival. It's not the way you get popular with people, though. He got my attention, but everything in him disgusts me.
Those who said above he is not nationalist anymore are mistaken. The man wants to be important, he has ambitions. Being nationalist is not a way to approach it in Russia. But even if he stopped saying everywhere how much he hates Jews, Georgians, ethnic groups of Russian North Caucasus, peoples of Middle Asia, etc, his hatred towards people of different ethnic groups is where it always was.
He is, but the West chooses to turn a blind eye to it, since he is a tool. They need a Putin's "rival", but not a person who calls people cockroaches, flies, rodents, kikes, black-assed, untranslatable insults and organizes nationalist rallies.
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2020/12/15/amanpour-alexey-navalny-poison-russia-putin.cnn 14:34
Here Navalny is confronted with a question about his views, and he lies about being friend to migrant workers. He is a big liar.
Saying the blogger is a Putin's rival is wrong. Have you heard the phrase they coined? The man Vladimir Putin fears most. It's rubbish. Media which say this to you take you for a fool. As Vladimir Putin said today, it's a common trick Navalny uses — to attack top government officials to get attention, and pretend you are someone's rival. It's not the way you get popular with people, though. He got my attention, but everything in him disgusts me.
Those who said above he is not nationalist anymore are mistaken. The man wants to be important, he has ambitions. Being nationalist is not a way to approach it in Russia. But even if he stopped saying everywhere how much he hates Jews, Georgians, ethnic groups of Russian North Caucasus, peoples of Middle Asia, etc, his hatred towards people of different ethnic groups is where it always was.
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11 71962>>1921 (OP)
Hes FSB agent.
Western elite and agents, Worked many years to create a system to get russian resources out off russia. Thanks to, crimea, navalny and all other events/incidents west is forced to sanction russia, thus the parasitic oligarchy cant take out russian resources. My dream and putin is that west put all sactions.
Putin thanks USA for sanction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-wS6S9MnvQ
Hes FSB agent.
Western elite and agents, Worked many years to create a system to get russian resources out off russia. Thanks to, crimea, navalny and all other events/incidents west is forced to sanction russia, thus the parasitic oligarchy cant take out russian resources. My dream and putin is that west put all sactions.
Putin thanks USA for sanction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-wS6S9MnvQ
13 72031>>1971
most likely, hes doing now "legitimization" process. all russian intelligence theater. navalny is obviously russian agent or double agent. fooling US intelligence by playing opposition,everyone knows that. hes a russian nazi, was and always will be.
most likely, hes doing now "legitimization" process. all russian intelligence theater. navalny is obviously russian agent or double agent. fooling US intelligence by playing opposition,everyone knows that. hes a russian nazi, was and always will be.
15 72087>>1921 (OP)
They need him to divert the attention of the liberals to his bait
They need him to divert the attention of the liberals to his bait
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18 72151Why do we need to kill him? He doesnt do snything serious, he just life for donations and pizdit.
21 72428>>2425
The West made relationships between countries depend on this man's blue underpants. Doesn't change he is a nonentity in Russian politics. Pretending to be someone is what this man does. He pretended to be a president candidate in 2018 and gathered money, but knew very well one cannot be a candidate while on probation. In Russia, he is a thief and a fraud not a politician.
The West made relationships between countries depend on this man's blue underpants. Doesn't change he is a nonentity in Russian politics. Pretending to be someone is what this man does. He pretended to be a president candidate in 2018 and gathered money, but knew very well one cannot be a candidate while on probation. In Russia, he is a thief and a fraud not a politician.
22 72429Let’s be honest here, Putin already owns Russia for life. The elections there are a formality sham to deceive people. Navalny will be killed off by the fsb eventually because he’s opposition. Heck, I’ve heard how the constitution in Russia was doomed from the start with national security provisions written by well intentioned communist officials. It’s arc is going to be very similar to pre-ww2 Japan and Germany as those two countries also had their citizens rights co-opted within their constitutions.
23 72430>>2428
Kind of like a politician you know.
The services would not try to kill him if he did was considered a nonactor. An false flag in Russia is too risky for CIA or any of their friends so that leaves FSB. No reason to doubt his story so far.
Power is a lot more unstable than you think. All it takes is a name and timing to rise.
>Pretending to be someone is what this man does.
Kind of like a politician you know.
The services would not try to kill him if he did was considered a nonactor. An false flag in Russia is too risky for CIA or any of their friends so that leaves FSB. No reason to doubt his story so far.
Power is a lot more unstable than you think. All it takes is a name and timing to rise.
428 Кб, 1536x2048 24 72432>>2429
What you are writing is a fanfic based on what you see in your country with dead people voting and no observers, no live broadcasts from polling stations. We vote for the person we see deemed and who responds in a delicate manner to the acts of unfriendliness of western "partners". There is no deception in our elections. The whole world laughs at your face, and you keep talking about other countries not being real democracies.
So you've already readied yourself to purify the evil and destroy today's Hitler to gift Russians some rights they lack. Please don't. I have my rights, I have food, home and guarantees. So what I want is peace and to be alive to enjoy those rights and goods. Your country can give me this only by stopping its provocations and not coming to my home to kill me and my dearest people.
> The elections there are a formality sham to deceive people.
What you are writing is a fanfic based on what you see in your country with dead people voting and no observers, no live broadcasts from polling stations. We vote for the person we see deemed and who responds in a delicate manner to the acts of unfriendliness of western "partners". There is no deception in our elections. The whole world laughs at your face, and you keep talking about other countries not being real democracies.
> It’s arc is going to be very similar to pre-ww2
So you've already readied yourself to purify the evil and destroy today's Hitler to gift Russians some rights they lack. Please don't. I have my rights, I have food, home and guarantees. So what I want is peace and to be alive to enjoy those rights and goods. Your country can give me this only by stopping its provocations and not coming to my home to kill me and my dearest people.
25 72433>>2430
Nobody tried to kill him. That's a lie. Staged.
FSB said the phone call is fake on their website. They'll provide more information soon.
Nobody tried to kill him. That's a lie. Staged.
> No reason to doubt his story so far.
FSB said the phone call is fake on their website. They'll provide more information soon.
26 72435>>2432
All I’m saying is don’t be surprised once ecological collapse hits and the facade comes off that government. I say this knowing full well there is criticisms to be had at my government. My government starting to falter democratically does not absolve your government from being completely screwed. That annexation of Crimea was exactly like how Japan annexed Macau in China.
All I’m saying is don’t be surprised once ecological collapse hits and the facade comes off that government. I say this knowing full well there is criticisms to be had at my government. My government starting to falter democratically does not absolve your government from being completely screwed. That annexation of Crimea was exactly like how Japan annexed Macau in China.
27 72436>>2433
Ok but let's be impartial. Both of the parties here have an incentive to deceive. However, Navalny's story is consistent, and think how difficult it would be to stage the entire operation in Russia and Berlin. Unless the health officials in Russia would have been in on the plot, why would they have approved the transfer? Sure in Berlin the hospital staff would have been assets if needed but again why can they produce a coherent narrative with proof? Why does the operation resemble other Russian intelligence operations abroad (let's be real there are no magical individual gangsters feuding with Russian opposition in London etc)?
The more logical narrative is that the tape is real. People make mistakes and one murder team member low in hierarchy being careless is believable. Harsh systems like security services encourage compliance with authority due to mid-level managers going too far with authority and surveillance. Everyone else he phoned pretty much caught on the act but all it takes is one man. What he talks about makes sense and matches with the facts of the case.
Putin acting macho man we would have got him if we wanted wink wink is an emotional theatrical response. FSB botched up a murder and Navalny is now used to pressure the government it's as simple as that this time.
Ok but let's be impartial. Both of the parties here have an incentive to deceive. However, Navalny's story is consistent, and think how difficult it would be to stage the entire operation in Russia and Berlin. Unless the health officials in Russia would have been in on the plot, why would they have approved the transfer? Sure in Berlin the hospital staff would have been assets if needed but again why can they produce a coherent narrative with proof? Why does the operation resemble other Russian intelligence operations abroad (let's be real there are no magical individual gangsters feuding with Russian opposition in London etc)?
The more logical narrative is that the tape is real. People make mistakes and one murder team member low in hierarchy being careless is believable. Harsh systems like security services encourage compliance with authority due to mid-level managers going too far with authority and surveillance. Everyone else he phoned pretty much caught on the act but all it takes is one man. What he talks about makes sense and matches with the facts of the case.
Putin acting macho man we would have got him if we wanted wink wink is an emotional theatrical response. FSB botched up a murder and Navalny is now used to pressure the government it's as simple as that this time.
28 72437 30 72439>>2436
It doesn't look consistent from here. The most obvious thing is the UK secretary of defense claims Russia may kill thousands Englishmen with Novichok in the future. Yet this weapon of mass destruction (which Russia doesn't have by the way since it destroyed 40,000 tons of its chemical weapons with the presence of international observers) was three or four times used against Navalny and failed to kill him. (They also say his wife was attacked with Novichok, but she went to bed, had a good sleep and awaked feeling well.)
Navalny and people like him wasn't teaching you to hate Finland for many years, right? But they were teaching Russians to hate Russia and its history, so I know better than believing in this person's acting. I'll trust people who fight terrorism and provide the safety of my family rather than a person who says Russians should violently overthrow their government, and tanks should attack the walls of the Kremlin.
>>2438
But Crimeans did vote on the referendum to join the Russian Federation for what they are being punished by your country with sanctions. There are also various polls years after that. But you will say all of them are lies, huh?
It doesn't look consistent from here. The most obvious thing is the UK secretary of defense claims Russia may kill thousands Englishmen with Novichok in the future. Yet this weapon of mass destruction (which Russia doesn't have by the way since it destroyed 40,000 tons of its chemical weapons with the presence of international observers) was three or four times used against Navalny and failed to kill him. (They also say his wife was attacked with Novichok, but she went to bed, had a good sleep and awaked feeling well.)
Navalny and people like him wasn't teaching you to hate Finland for many years, right? But they were teaching Russians to hate Russia and its history, so I know better than believing in this person's acting. I'll trust people who fight terrorism and provide the safety of my family rather than a person who says Russians should violently overthrow their government, and tanks should attack the walls of the Kremlin.
>>2438
But Crimeans did vote on the referendum to join the Russian Federation for what they are being punished by your country with sanctions. There are also various polls years after that. But you will say all of them are lies, huh?
34 72461>>2444
One can write anything on a fence. (It's a saying.) Or, with big dedication, on a website related to government.
This person still has to name his sources. Referring to some abstract unnamed experts looks shady to me.
"По мнению практически всех опрошенных специалистов и граждан"
It says that in the opinions of almost every surveyed expert and citizen, these (what you said) are the results of the referendum. Where is that survey, how many were surveyed, and who are those experts? (The guy was three days there, so imagine what kind of survey he could do in three days.)
It's not the opinions of some unnamed experts what decides the results, but voters and their votes. Or it wouldn't be democracy, right? I looked your screenshot up on the Internet to find out many articles claiming these (the generalized opinions of some unnamed experts gathered in three days) to be the real results. They are not, and this manipulation of western media is an attack against our democracy.
One can write anything on a fence. (It's a saying.) Or, with big dedication, on a website related to government.
This person still has to name his sources. Referring to some abstract unnamed experts looks shady to me.
"По мнению практически всех опрошенных специалистов и граждан"
It says that in the opinions of almost every surveyed expert and citizen, these (what you said) are the results of the referendum. Where is that survey, how many were surveyed, and who are those experts? (The guy was three days there, so imagine what kind of survey he could do in three days.)
It's not the opinions of some unnamed experts what decides the results, but voters and their votes. Or it wouldn't be democracy, right? I looked your screenshot up on the Internet to find out many articles claiming these (the generalized opinions of some unnamed experts gathered in three days) to be the real results. They are not, and this manipulation of western media is an attack against our democracy.
35 72462http://president-sovet.ru/members/blogs/bobrov_e_a/problemy-zhiteley-kryma-/
For those who are curious. Kind of reminds me how I wrote my diploma project.
По-русски называется "на отъебись". That's obscene language. It will be "careless work wrote by a lazy ass" in English, I guess.
For those who are curious. Kind of reminds me how I wrote my diploma project.
По-русски называется "на отъебись". That's obscene language. It will be "careless work wrote by a lazy ass" in English, I guess.
37 72467>>2466
What ecological collapse do you think I'm enjoying here? There is work done in the sphere of environment preservation. Protection of forests, separate garbage collection and recycling, dealing with industrial wastes and old closed facilities are important topics that being brought up often, and one can read news to know what is being done in these regards. This, and we also don't have an extremely high level of consumption comparing with some other countries. I'm enjoying cold bitey winter as always in this time of a year.
What ecological collapse do you think I'm enjoying here? There is work done in the sphere of environment preservation. Protection of forests, separate garbage collection and recycling, dealing with industrial wastes and old closed facilities are important topics that being brought up often, and one can read news to know what is being done in these regards. This, and we also don't have an extremely high level of consumption comparing with some other countries. I'm enjoying cold bitey winter as always in this time of a year.
39 72470>>2467
Not really counting the USSR pollution are ya. Or the fact that your government relies on exporting oil. Maybe also buying palm oil and incinerating your recycling shouldn’t count. How about those methane gasses getting released in Siberia. If you are a real person, you honestly don’t have a fucking clue.
Not really counting the USSR pollution are ya. Or the fact that your government relies on exporting oil. Maybe also buying palm oil and incinerating your recycling shouldn’t count. How about those methane gasses getting released in Siberia. If you are a real person, you honestly don’t have a fucking clue.
40 72471>>2470
No, I am not a person. And you have zero respect for those whom you disagree with, or to be more precise whose countries you learned to hate from your tolerant all-loving liberal media. Bad for you.
You are bringing random topics to tell me how bad Russia is. Your country officially tortures people, destroys countries ocean away, bombs other countries' capitals to kill thousands of civilians, perpetrates revolutions here and there, and has the biggest prison population with 60% of prisoners being non-white. Have no fucking clue, huh? You better shut your dirty mouth up and learn something about your country, instead of telling me fairy tales about some ecological collapse in mine.
No, I am not a person. And you have zero respect for those whom you disagree with, or to be more precise whose countries you learned to hate from your tolerant all-loving liberal media. Bad for you.
You are bringing random topics to tell me how bad Russia is. Your country officially tortures people, destroys countries ocean away, bombs other countries' capitals to kill thousands of civilians, perpetrates revolutions here and there, and has the biggest prison population with 60% of prisoners being non-white. Have no fucking clue, huh? You better shut your dirty mouth up and learn something about your country, instead of telling me fairy tales about some ecological collapse in mine.
106 Кб, 1080x939 42 72473>>2472
An American will say you it can't be. They are totally unaware of their overconsumption and the fact their country drains the whole world. Here is a kind of picture they love posting. They, having the racist past with consequences yet to be eliminated, wait when darker skinned people solve their ecological problems in their countries.
Soviet Union he says, but in Soviet Union people brought bottles and jars back to a shop, so they can be used over and over. Then America came and taught us plastic bags, throwing good things away and constantly buy things we don't need to throw them a bit later. By the way, while production of palm oil does impact the environment negatively and kills animals like any other food production unfortunately does, palm oil is the most effective to produce and requires less space than any other.
An American will say you it can't be. They are totally unaware of their overconsumption and the fact their country drains the whole world. Here is a kind of picture they love posting. They, having the racist past with consequences yet to be eliminated, wait when darker skinned people solve their ecological problems in their countries.
Soviet Union he says, but in Soviet Union people brought bottles and jars back to a shop, so they can be used over and over. Then America came and taught us plastic bags, throwing good things away and constantly buy things we don't need to throw them a bit later. By the way, while production of palm oil does impact the environment negatively and kills animals like any other food production unfortunately does, palm oil is the most effective to produce and requires less space than any other.
43 72474>>2473
Buddy, I’m more left winged than you in the areas that count. I will happily criticize you and your government especially considering your intial response that ecological collapse is a non issue in Russia and because of your government’s love of causing fact misconstruing controversy and using paid volunteers to cover it up. By the way all governments are failing on the environment, don’t infer I think it’s only Russia. It’s a global systemic issue and now you’ve shown knowledge that it is after the fact. Palm oil is only as efficient as the rainforests that get burned out for cheapies. Also, I go outta my way to reduce in consumption via all levers. Population and consumption is in my dictionary. Maybe you should keep reading up on environmental news.
Buddy, I’m more left winged than you in the areas that count. I will happily criticize you and your government especially considering your intial response that ecological collapse is a non issue in Russia and because of your government’s love of causing fact misconstruing controversy and using paid volunteers to cover it up. By the way all governments are failing on the environment, don’t infer I think it’s only Russia. It’s a global systemic issue and now you’ve shown knowledge that it is after the fact. Palm oil is only as efficient as the rainforests that get burned out for cheapies. Also, I go outta my way to reduce in consumption via all levers. Population and consumption is in my dictionary. Maybe you should keep reading up on environmental news.
44 72477>>2474
First, Russia is in no way leftist, it is oligarchic capitalist state which steadily withdraws soviet social benefits (there were). Even funnier to read american people who claim that Russia is still communist.
Second, Russia is one of the best countries in emissions managenent due to, you know, that Soviet dissolution thing and subsequent death of mind-blowing number of factories, which resulted in net decrease of CO2 emissions since 1991.
Third, we actually don't care about emissions because of Maslow's hierarchy, we have tough time meeting more basic needs here unlike you westerners with your first world problems.
And you know what? I would really enjoy some global warming to turn our frozen wasterland of a country into subtropics like USA now. Chinese, Americans and Greta personally can go fuck themselves.
First, Russia is in no way leftist, it is oligarchic capitalist state which steadily withdraws soviet social benefits (there were). Even funnier to read american people who claim that Russia is still communist.
Second, Russia is one of the best countries in emissions managenent due to, you know, that Soviet dissolution thing and subsequent death of mind-blowing number of factories, which resulted in net decrease of CO2 emissions since 1991.
Third, we actually don't care about emissions because of Maslow's hierarchy, we have tough time meeting more basic needs here unlike you westerners with your first world problems.
And you know what? I would really enjoy some global warming to turn our frozen wasterland of a country into subtropics like USA now. Chinese, Americans and Greta personally can go fuck themselves.
45 72479>>2474
i see what you're saying but maybe developed countries should change first since they obviously have more resources to do so and the rest(which you've been polluting for decades by the way and still continue to do so) will follow?
i see what you're saying but maybe developed countries should change first since they obviously have more resources to do so and the rest(which you've been polluting for decades by the way and still continue to do so) will follow?
46 72480>>2474
Why would you suggest me to enjoy ecological collapse then? I don't understand what it has to do with what I wrote before that.
If it's a controversy, how do you know you are getting the right vision of things? I think it's the United States who creates such situations where everything was simple and clear, lying to its citizens and all the world.
Good. Do your best, and don't think other people are stupid and don't care. We do.
>>2477
I guess it doesn't work this way, unfortunately. We have cities behind the polar circle, those territories might become deserts as the result.
> don’t infer I think it’s only Russia
Why would you suggest me to enjoy ecological collapse then? I don't understand what it has to do with what I wrote before that.
> fact misconstruing controversy
If it's a controversy, how do you know you are getting the right vision of things? I think it's the United States who creates such situations where everything was simple and clear, lying to its citizens and all the world.
> Also, I go outta my way to reduce in consumption via all levers.
Good. Do your best, and don't think other people are stupid and don't care. We do.
>>2477
> some global warming to turn our frozen wasterland of a country into subtropics
I guess it doesn't work this way, unfortunately. We have cities behind the polar circle, those territories might become deserts as the result.
47 72481
48 72507I heard an opinion that in Ukraine people are on Navalny side. and that's an outright lie. nobody cares about him. and I really can't say anything good about him too. but that's really sad since Russia have absolutely no opposition and no alternatives to Putin. why so, I wonder...
49 72509>>2507
You wish! Seems like lakhta has Ukrainian IPs now. Navalny is half Ukrainian and half Russian, and he'll lead Ukraine to the brilliant future. Imagine prospects for world peace, prosperity, and security with Biden as the President of the United States, and Navalny as the President of Russia and Ukraine. We are already halfway there.
"Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You, you may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one"
> nobody cares about him
You wish! Seems like lakhta has Ukrainian IPs now. Navalny is half Ukrainian and half Russian, and he'll lead Ukraine to the brilliant future. Imagine prospects for world peace, prosperity, and security with Biden as the President of the United States, and Navalny as the President of Russia and Ukraine. We are already halfway there.
"Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You, you may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one"
51 72530>>2511
Haha, OK. Those are words of a former CIA director by the way. I allowed myself to add Ukraine for more fun. https://twitter.com/JohnBrennan/status/1314587438568833025
Haha, OK. Those are words of a former CIA director by the way. I allowed myself to add Ukraine for more fun. https://twitter.com/JohnBrennan/status/1314587438568833025
52 72531>>2530
if we live in peace we get overpopulation. this is why you have predators in the wild live. and top predator is russia among mankind.
if we live in peace we get overpopulation. this is why you have predators in the wild live. and top predator is russia among mankind.
53 72537>>2531
LDPR, you? I can't agree with you more, as always. Thank you for sharing your wisdom. Your posts are our beacon in the darkness of ignorance.
LDPR, you? I can't agree with you more, as always. Thank you for sharing your wisdom. Your posts are our beacon in the darkness of ignorance.
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57 72910>>1921 (OP)
It is sickening how Putin The Half-Cuck is not poisoning all this traitors with neuro-toxins or polonium, he should man up for a change and gives this bastards what they deserve. Bonus: The JEWest would not have more opportunity for this false-flags because all this traitors would be dead.
It is sickening how Putin The Half-Cuck is not poisoning all this traitors with neuro-toxins or polonium, he should man up for a change and gives this bastards what they deserve. Bonus: The JEWest would not have more opportunity for this false-flags because all this traitors would be dead.
58 72940 59 72958>>1921 (OP)
He is FSB agent, so he gets "out of the jail" card when others get 10+ years of prison, and gets poisoned and treated in russian clinic right away so all what he gets is hype.
>>2910
Russia is notoriously bad in traitor assassinations. It is so bad that I can't help but think that at least some cases have Russia framed for poisoning which was not even a thing.
I miss good old icepick to the head: simple, crude and therefore not error prone as most soviet things.
He is FSB agent, so he gets "out of the jail" card when others get 10+ years of prison, and gets poisoned and treated in russian clinic right away so all what he gets is hype.
>>2910
>It is sickening how Putin The Half-Cuck is not poisoning all this traitors
Russia is notoriously bad in traitor assassinations. It is so bad that I can't help but think that at least some cases have Russia framed for poisoning which was not even a thing.
I miss good old icepick to the head: simple, crude and therefore not error prone as most soviet things.
61 72981>>2976
He's just another puppet of the kagal. They play us like fools we are.Their vile pride comes before their bitter fall, but it will take some time. I wish they could learn and evolve into something more noble, but they most probably won't.
He's just another puppet of the kagal. They play us like fools we are.Their vile pride comes before their bitter fall, but it will take some time. I wish they could learn and evolve into something more noble, but they most probably won't.
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67 73123>>3089 (Del)
Could you please be less toxic, my Portuguese fellow?
Could you please be less toxic, my Portuguese fellow?
sage 68 73124
68 73124>>3089 (Del)
But yes, you're entirely right. Do you know what all these schizo say? He's alive and therefore he's entirely controlled. So they need Navalny killed to prove his не-под-залуп-н-ость (not-under-dickheadPutin-ness). This is sick as fuck.
But yes, you're entirely right. Do you know what all these schizo say? He's alive and therefore he's entirely controlled. So they need Navalny killed to prove his не-под-залуп-н-ость (not-under-dickheadPutin-ness). This is sick as fuck.
70 73173>>3089 (Del)
navalny got arrested many times, he goes to vacation on donations, many people got arrested and he went free of charge or 3 days.
people stopped believing him, so they "fake" poison him to make legitimization process.
this is the oldest kgb trick ever. hes "from the people and fights corruption". i think khrushev was the same.
for "them" is like a play between sheepherd and the dog.
navalny got arrested many times, he goes to vacation on donations, many people got arrested and he went free of charge or 3 days.
people stopped believing him, so they "fake" poison him to make legitimization process.
this is the oldest kgb trick ever. hes "from the people and fights corruption". i think khrushev was the same.
for "them" is like a play between sheepherd and the dog.
72 73185>>1921 (OP)
My hero.
My hero.
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60 Кб, 1280x720 74 73296>>1921 (OP)
It was hot yesterday! Sosnovsky says Germany shows a friendly gesture by sending Navalny back before they would receive Russia's request to arrest him, and that Navalny lost American support after his posts about Trump. Bagdasarov completely disagrees with him and insists we shouldn't underestimate danger to the country's stability and enemies who indeed have a plan, and sending their spy back is only the beginning of it. Sosnowsky thinks it's an unproductive way of thinking seeing enemies everywhere, and we should see when people are being friendly. What side do you choose?
It was hot yesterday! Sosnovsky says Germany shows a friendly gesture by sending Navalny back before they would receive Russia's request to arrest him, and that Navalny lost American support after his posts about Trump. Bagdasarov completely disagrees with him and insists we shouldn't underestimate danger to the country's stability and enemies who indeed have a plan, and sending their spy back is only the beginning of it. Sosnowsky thinks it's an unproductive way of thinking seeing enemies everywhere, and we should see when people are being friendly. What side do you choose?
75 73330>>3296
That Sosnovsky is either a retard or a shill. With Biden in place the attacks on Russia will go to level red and the German colony will fully participate in this. Trump at least made them slow down a little but with Biden things will accelerate.
That Sosnovsky is either a retard or a shill. With Biden in place the attacks on Russia will go to level red and the German colony will fully participate in this. Trump at least made them slow down a little but with Biden things will accelerate.
76 73331>>3296
its all theater, only military decides who wins, always infantry is stronger then special forces.
its all theater, only military decides who wins, always infantry is stronger then special forces.
77 73362>>3296
Literally NOBODY. Sosnowsky is known for 'ruling' a fictitious media "World Economy" but who is Bagdasarov?
>Sosnowsky
>Bagdasarov
Literally NOBODY. Sosnowsky is known for 'ruling' a fictitious media "World Economy" but who is Bagdasarov?
78 73365>>3362
Does it matter? They have informed opinion and share it with us. Real nobody is the person Western media can't stop talking about. I suppose this funny reality show ends today.
Does it matter? They have informed opinion and share it with us. Real nobody is the person Western media can't stop talking about. I suppose this funny reality show ends today.
79 73366>>3362
Bagdasarov fought in Tajikistan to stop the civil war, while the person they are discussing is a fraudster and traitor.
Bagdasarov fought in Tajikistan to stop the civil war, while the person they are discussing is a fraudster and traitor.
80 73376>>1921 (OP)
dirtbag just got arrested!
https://www.rt.com/russia/512758-navalny-arrested-airport-moscow-berlin/
Today we got Putler (based) and not Putin (cuck) we want more Putler!! Send this bastard to worst jail in Russia!
dirtbag just got arrested!
https://www.rt.com/russia/512758-navalny-arrested-airport-moscow-berlin/
Today we got Putler (based) and not Putin (cuck) we want more Putler!! Send this bastard to worst jail in Russia!
85 73391>>3390
Navalny is not a left-wing liberal. Some even call him right-wing, he attended the nationalist Russian marches and he recognizes the problem of emigrants. But I consider him a centrist.
Navalny is not a left-wing liberal. Some even call him right-wing, he attended the nationalist Russian marches and he recognizes the problem of emigrants. But I consider him a centrist.
86 73394>>3393 (Del)
And you're a moron terrorising /int/ with sentences you have no right to talk about. You're a young person living somewhere in Porto or Lagos and you know no shit about Navalny.
And many other things as well. I see portuguese shitposter here everyday and it's mostly incoherent bullshit coming straight from 4chan /pol/ sewers.
And you're a moron terrorising /int/ with sentences you have no right to talk about. You're a young person living somewhere in Porto or Lagos and you know no shit about Navalny.
And many other things as well. I see portuguese shitposter here everyday and it's mostly incoherent bullshit coming straight from 4chan /pol/ sewers.
87 73395>>3379
Hi NFKRZ, I hope the local vatniks beat you to death next time.
>I’m a supporter of Navalny from Russia, Chelyabinsk.
Hi NFKRZ, I hope the local vatniks beat you to death next time.
89 73397>>3395
The opinion that Navalny's supporters are hated by patriots is actually created by lakhta (Kremlin bots or rumaodan). In fact, Chelyabinsk is a rather oppositional city, suffering from the authorities ' disregard for the environment. And of course, as in all of Russia, except for Moscow and St. Petersburg, no one cares that cities look like shit. The last governor appointed by Putin stole about 5 billion rubles from the budget and ran away, despite the fact that everyone loved the last governor, which brings Chelyabinsk closer to Khabarovsk in its problems.
The opinion that Navalny's supporters are hated by patriots is actually created by lakhta (Kremlin bots or rumaodan). In fact, Chelyabinsk is a rather oppositional city, suffering from the authorities ' disregard for the environment. And of course, as in all of Russia, except for Moscow and St. Petersburg, no one cares that cities look like shit. The last governor appointed by Putin stole about 5 billion rubles from the budget and ran away, despite the fact that everyone loved the last governor, which brings Chelyabinsk closer to Khabarovsk in its problems.
90 73398*despite the fact that everyone loved the governor before last, who was expelled by the Siloviks clan
93 Кб, 988x741 91 73400>>3393 (Del)
Then you will be interested to know what the family name of the Putin’s mother is Shalomova(from the word “shalom”).
And he has repeatedly spoken of his warm feelings towards the Jews
Then you will be interested to know what the family name of the Putin’s mother is Shalomova(from the word “shalom”).
And he has repeatedly spoken of his warm feelings towards the Jews
94 73411>>3410 (Del)
Except for half of his genetics
Except for half of his genetics
95 73454>>3397
Yeah i remember when Yurevich stole budget moneн. It was good days when u can see graffitis like " Yurevich working city resting".
Yeah i remember when Yurevich stole budget moneн. It was good days when u can see graffitis like " Yurevich working city resting".
97 73460>>3410 (Del)
the most hatefull antisemites are jews and halfjews like hitler, because they are not accepted into the tribe and considered "mamzer" aka basterd child.
the most hatefull antisemites are jews and halfjews like hitler, because they are not accepted into the tribe and considered "mamzer" aka basterd child.
98 73461>>3455
Nah. I know its about billions. But im remember when my father told me about Uyrevich, about his mansion and money he stole. Btw my father had a close relationship with Aristov and he told to my father that Yurevich was hiding from the government somewhere in italy in his villa. Also he said that if Interpol came for him, he could calmly go out into neutral waters on his own yacht. I don't know how true it is, but I believe in it.
Nah. I know its about billions. But im remember when my father told me about Uyrevich, about his mansion and money he stole. Btw my father had a close relationship with Aristov and he told to my father that Yurevich was hiding from the government somewhere in italy in his villa. Also he said that if Interpol came for him, he could calmly go out into neutral waters on his own yacht. I don't know how true it is, but I believe in it.
99 73469 101 73486>>3397
Navalnaboos calling bots everyone they don't like do not help his rating, dude. Quite the opposite.
>The opinion that Navalny's supporters are hated by patriots is actually created by lakhta (Kremlin bots or rumaodan).
Navalnaboos calling bots everyone they don't like do not help his rating, dude. Quite the opposite.
102 73505 103 73507>>3505
Yes, of course, anyone who dislikes your idol is payed, now I see. How could I think otherwise.
Yes, of course, anyone who dislikes your idol is payed, now I see. How could I think otherwise.
104 73508>>3397
Russian nationalists are not low-IQ hohol nationalists...the kosher nationalist scam will not work with them.
Russian nationalists are not low-IQ hohol nationalists...the kosher nationalist scam will not work with them.
106 73511>>3509
It makes payed comments.
What do "social networks redactors" of Navalny do? The samer thing.
What has it to do with people who dislike Navalny being real people?
It makes payed comments.
What do "social networks redactors" of Navalny do? The samer thing.
What has it to do with people who dislike Navalny being real people?
107 73512>>3511
No! Stop telling lies!! Everyone loves Him you bot!! Volodin dolbit!!
And now we won't hear anything from this bot! They shut up immediately after Volodin is mentioned. Keep in mind if you see another bot guys. Say Volodin dolbit ochko, and they run away!!
No! Stop telling lies!! Everyone loves Him you bot!! Volodin dolbit!!
And now we won't hear anything from this bot! They shut up immediately after Volodin is mentioned. Keep in mind if you see another bot guys. Say Volodin dolbit ochko, and they run away!!
109 73516>>3514
He is a Kremlin bot who sold his conscience for money stained with the blood of the Russian intelligentsia. And I am a righteous conscious political activist exposing these despicable unprincipled mercenary inhabitants of Lahta center who can only repeat what is written in their metodichkas and run away when Volodin is mentioned. How can we be the same person? Or are you him playing the fool? Bad job then, I'm afraid Volodin is upset with you pulling such an obvious trick. His office, now!
He is a Kremlin bot who sold his conscience for money stained with the blood of the Russian intelligentsia. And I am a righteous conscious political activist exposing these despicable unprincipled mercenary inhabitants of Lahta center who can only repeat what is written in their metodichkas and run away when Volodin is mentioned. How can we be the same person? Or are you him playing the fool? Bad job then, I'm afraid Volodin is upset with you pulling such an obvious trick. His office, now!
112 73521>>3520
I mean the dishonesty breaks through even in your style of speech.
Can you tell me where you're from and what you do for living?
I mean the dishonesty breaks through even in your style of speech.
Can you tell me where you're from and what you do for living?
115 73526>>3521
Sure thing. I'm from Russia. I used to have a job before, but now I live on donations, so I can devote myself entirely to my political activism to expose and spook away as many Kremlin bots on the Internet as I can. Was my answer useful to you? That's a funny thing to listen to nonsense about dishonesty from a fucking Kremlin bot.
>>3523 (Del)
There is no such thing as a Western bot because the West is democracy, and hiring bots is (post-)communist undemocratic tactics.
>>3524
I'm talking TO YOU. I don't have a stupid Kremlin bot alter-ego! No, no, no! So deal with it and stop your gaslighting immediately. Volodin is awaiting you with his biggest bottle.
Sure thing. I'm from Russia. I used to have a job before, but now I live on donations, so I can devote myself entirely to my political activism to expose and spook away as many Kremlin bots on the Internet as I can. Was my answer useful to you? That's a funny thing to listen to nonsense about dishonesty from a fucking Kremlin bot.
>>3523 (Del)
There is no such thing as a Western bot because the West is democracy, and hiring bots is (post-)communist undemocratic tactics.
>>3524
I'm talking TO YOU. I don't have a stupid Kremlin bot alter-ego! No, no, no! So deal with it and stop your gaslighting immediately. Volodin is awaiting you with his biggest bottle.
116 73528>>3526
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
>>3525
Fuck up what? Brainlet..."Novichok" aka A-200 series nerve agents, are 10x more potent than the already terrible VX nerve agent, there is no way you can use that sort of substance for an assassination. One of the scientists who created it is anti-Putin and said that the whole story is laughable.
>There is no such thing as a Western bot because the West is democracy, and hiring bots is (post-)communist undemocratic tactics.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
>>3525
Fuck up what? Brainlet..."Novichok" aka A-200 series nerve agents, are 10x more potent than the already terrible VX nerve agent, there is no way you can use that sort of substance for an assassination. One of the scientists who created it is anti-Putin and said that the whole story is laughable.
117 73530>>3528
Actually it’s the opposite. A-234(used on Skripal) is 7 times less potent than VX
You talking about the author of A-234 Vil Mizrayanov? He confirms the story(on Skripal and on Navalny]
>are 10x more potent than the already terrible VX
Actually it’s the opposite. A-234(used on Skripal) is 7 times less potent than VX
>One of the scientists who created it is anti-Putin and said that the whole story is laughable.
You talking about the author of A-234 Vil Mizrayanov? He confirms the story(on Skripal and on Navalny]
119 73532>>3528
And the one who said the whole story is laughable is pro-Putin Leonid Rink. I'm not saying this proves him wrong, but he was involved in the sale of chemical weapons to criminals. And in his “disclosure”, he did not take into account that A-234 does not spread through the air
And the one who said the whole story is laughable is pro-Putin Leonid Rink. I'm not saying this proves him wrong, but he was involved in the sale of chemical weapons to criminals. And in his “disclosure”, he did not take into account that A-234 does not spread through the air
120 73534The main focus of Russian propaganda is that Rink is "the creator of Novichok", but it is known for certain that A-234 was synthesized by Uglev, and Uglev has a different point of view. The extent of the contribution of the Rink to the creation of the Novichok is unknown.
122 73539>>3530
>>3531
>>3532
>>3534
A-234 variant is listed as being as toxic as VX but more persistent...doesn't change anything, it is impossible to use such powerful substance in an assassination atempt.
Vil Mirzayanov is a traitor living in the JewSA and Uglev is a pro-hohol traitor so of course they would say that wouldn't they? You might say that Rink also cannot be impartial true but i certainly take the word of non-traitors over traitors.
>>3531
>>3532
>>3534
A-234 variant is listed as being as toxic as VX but more persistent...doesn't change anything, it is impossible to use such powerful substance in an assassination atempt.
Vil Mirzayanov is a traitor living in the JewSA and Uglev is a pro-hohol traitor so of course they would say that wouldn't they? You might say that Rink also cannot be impartial true but i certainly take the word of non-traitors over traitors.
126 73548>>3542
Semi-lethal oral dose of A-234 would be 0.71 mg/kg (whereas the semi-lethal oral dose of VX is 0.1 mg/kg), and the dosage for external use should be >10 times more. So semi-lethal dose for a man would be >60 mg. Once again: it does not spread through the air. So what can prevent the use of such poison for assassination?
Source: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/minf.201800106
Semi-lethal oral dose of A-234 would be 0.71 mg/kg (whereas the semi-lethal oral dose of VX is 0.1 mg/kg), and the dosage for external use should be >10 times more. So semi-lethal dose for a man would be >60 mg. Once again: it does not spread through the air. So what can prevent the use of such poison for assassination?
Source: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/minf.201800106
127 73549>>3548
that's no proper source, that's a thesis by a guy called Prof. Lars Carlsen. All sources on the web indicated that all A-200 variants are several times more potent than VX
And it offers no risk to the assassins and the ones close to the target? Damn...the FSB/GRU/KGB must have some real morons then because despite being able to apply heavy quantities of nerve agent they actually applied so little that not only they failed to kill the Skripals and Analny (this one 2x according to Democracy) but they recovered with no neurological damage...lol
that's no proper source, that's a thesis by a guy called Prof. Lars Carlsen. All sources on the web indicated that all A-200 variants are several times more potent than VX
And it offers no risk to the assassins and the ones close to the target? Damn...the FSB/GRU/KGB must have some real morons then because despite being able to apply heavy quantities of nerve agent they actually applied so little that not only they failed to kill the Skripals and Analny (this one 2x according to Democracy) but they recovered with no neurological damage...lol
![e9cc338c847acdebaa000c41cfad027ed8e81ce7f149d52a4c411d141a1[...].png](https://2ch.life//int/src/71921/16111921827710.png)
30 Кб, 600x400 130 73572>>3564
This is how hundreds of millions of dollars spent every year by the US government to fight Russia. American newspapers deceive people all over the world into believing silly lies which have nothing to do with the real world. The irony of the new Red Scare is that the actual opposition to the United Russia party is communists.
This is how hundreds of millions of dollars spent every year by the US government to fight Russia. American newspapers deceive people all over the world into believing silly lies which have nothing to do with the real world. The irony of the new Red Scare is that the actual opposition to the United Russia party is communists.
248 Кб, 1667x707
131 73573What's with his absurd claims about Putin's a secret daughter? They look nothing alike.
132 73574
136 73679>>3674
It's sarcasm, stop confirming my conceptions about humorless Germans. They look like literal clones.
It's sarcasm, stop confirming my conceptions about humorless Germans. They look like literal clones.
138 74062Because putin protects him
139 74094>>1921 (OP)
Я завтра выхожу т я готов пойти на крест. Распинайте меня, мрази, мне терять нечего. Но, может быть моя смерть даст хоть кому-нибудь пищу для размышлений - я отдаю свою жизнь для вас!
Завтра я оболью себя керосином, и подожгу это тело. И я сделаю это из любви - я люблю вас, тех, кто читает эти строки, я не плохой человек, я не сделал вам зла, и никогда не хотел. Завтра я умру за вас. Если хотите посмотреть на это (пофоткать, снять видосики, монетизировать контент) - приходите завтра.
>Jesus fucking christ when will you Russians finally kill him?
Я завтра выхожу т я готов пойти на крест. Распинайте меня, мрази, мне терять нечего. Но, может быть моя смерть даст хоть кому-нибудь пищу для размышлений - я отдаю свою жизнь для вас!
Завтра я оболью себя керосином, и подожгу это тело. И я сделаю это из любви - я люблю вас, тех, кто читает эти строки, я не плохой человек, я не сделал вам зла, и никогда не хотел. Завтра я умру за вас. Если хотите посмотреть на это (пофоткать, снять видосики, монетизировать контент) - приходите завтра.
140 74105>>4094
Божий человек - Полиевкт, пришедший сегодня на Соловьёв Лайв. Парень, которого за плакат избили. А ты манипулирующий дурак или просто в уши ссышь больной фантазией. Президент мой друг.
Божий человек - Полиевкт, пришедший сегодня на Соловьёв Лайв. Парень, которого за плакат избили. А ты манипулирующий дурак или просто в уши ссышь больной фантазией. Президент мой друг.
143 74128sage 145 74460
145 74460sage 146 74461
146 74461>>4389 (Del)
Working for foreign intelligence is already a crime. If you clearly know that he is, then the FSB, which has been following him for 10 years, should know too. But they put him in jail on trumped-up charges after the poisoning attempt. Why is that?
Working for foreign intelligence is already a crime. If you clearly know that he is, then the FSB, which has been following him for 10 years, should know too. But they put him in jail on trumped-up charges after the poisoning attempt. Why is that?
57 Кб, 599x620 148 74513>>4461
Because Navalny is FSB agent. Russian patriot, lover of russians and putinlover. Also putin loves him. Hes russian neo-nazi like putin is just russian nazi.
Navalny plays "liberashka" so that west will put sanctions on russian (((oligarchs))) this way the resources will not be sent to europe like north stream 2 but stay in russia.
Navalny+Putin=2 russian brothers. Its works so perfect you cant even imagine, wawawewa!
Because Navalny is FSB agent. Russian patriot, lover of russians and putinlover. Also putin loves him. Hes russian neo-nazi like putin is just russian nazi.
Navalny plays "liberashka" so that west will put sanctions on russian (((oligarchs))) this way the resources will not be sent to europe like north stream 2 but stay in russia.
Navalny+Putin=2 russian brothers. Its works so perfect you cant even imagine, wawawewa!
149 74521.
158 74636
171 Кб, 578x840 159 74655>>4636
No, it’s not. Hotels are not being built by the Presidential administration.
No, it’s not. Hotels are not being built by the Presidential administration.
160 74661 161 74662>>4655
i see 2 adminstrations and 2 companies(общество) agreeing into this project, you know the army had to agree with this too. cuz its close to it.
how the fuck you supposed to build a pension without administration agreeing to it ? are you fuking retarded ?
when i bought my house in germany the adminstration had to agree on it to, they are not investors lol. they dont build anything, just part of the legal process.
i see 2 adminstrations and 2 companies(общество) agreeing into this project, you know the army had to agree with this too. cuz its close to it.
how the fuck you supposed to build a pension without administration agreeing to it ? are you fuking retarded ?
when i bought my house in germany the adminstration had to agree on it to, they are not investors lol. they dont build anything, just part of the legal process.
162 74673>>4662
The contractor(and developer) is a military unit of FSO, not a private person or a private company. Why is that?
The contractor(and developer) is a military unit of FSO, not a private person or a private company. Why is that?
164 74685>>4673
"федеральное государственное учреждение"
its not developer, its just part of contract since it very close to it and it needs the approval. because you have "no fly" zone.
http://garantsp.ru/faq/society-right/vo200810-2/
"федеральное государственное учреждение"
its not developer, its just part of contract since it very close to it and it needs the approval. because you have "no fly" zone.
http://garantsp.ru/faq/society-right/vo200810-2/
158 Кб, 1148x760 165 74687>>4673
Its FSB-border patrol, similar to US Coast Guard.
FSO haz nothing to do with it.
FSO is like secret service in the USA. You confuse 2 different units. When you lie at least give it more effort.
>military unit of FSO
Its FSB-border patrol, similar to US Coast Guard.
FSO haz nothing to do with it.
FSO is like secret service in the USA. You confuse 2 different units. When you lie at least give it more effort.
166 74697>>4687
Document says «Федеральная служба охраны»(FSO) not «Федеральная служба безопасности»(FSB)
Document says «Федеральная служба охраны»(FSO) not «Федеральная служба безопасности»(FSB)
169 77992>>1921 (OP)
why ya don't give a fuck about him lol
why ya don't give a fuck about him lol
170 78541>>1921 (OP)
LOL, we keep trying, but the motherfucker is so lucky
LOL, we keep trying, but the motherfucker is so lucky
173 79029 175 79154>>8544
you're so naive
when regime wants to get rid of someone - it does
many such cases
navalny is still alive even after OH MY GOD DEADLY NOVICHOK OH SHIT
go figure
you're so naive
when regime wants to get rid of someone - it does
many such cases
navalny is still alive even after OH MY GOD DEADLY NOVICHOK OH SHIT
go figure
176 79155>>1921 (OP)
Why would they(Putin's administration) ever want to even kill him? It makes no sense to kill him or even do much of anything about him. It's better to have opposition leader that you know than a opposition leader that you do not know or control.
Why would they(Putin's administration) ever want to even kill him? It makes no sense to kill him or even do much of anything about him. It's better to have opposition leader that you know than a opposition leader that you do not know or control.
177 79156>>9154
When it has several attempts, and has the permission not to disguise it as an accident. In other cases, the probability of failure is quite high.
>when regime wants to get rid of someone - it does
When it has several attempts, and has the permission not to disguise it as an accident. In other cases, the probability of failure is quite high.
178 79157>>9155
Because they can’t control him and he's too dangerous. He has that match that can set fire to a gunpowder storage. And this match is truth.
Prigozhin expressed the main complaint about him: that he could not settle things with anyone.
Because they can’t control him and he's too dangerous. He has that match that can set fire to a gunpowder storage. And this match is truth.
Prigozhin expressed the main complaint about him: that he could not settle things with anyone.
179 79158*and “settle things” of course means “to shut up”
180 79172>>9155
They do it to weaken the opposition and leave it without a leader. While the event causes discontent among people, in the long run Russia will hold elections without the leader. Luka did the same in Belarus arresting the most influential opposition leaders.
They do it to weaken the opposition and leave it without a leader. While the event causes discontent among people, in the long run Russia will hold elections without the leader. Luka did the same in Belarus arresting the most influential opposition leaders.
181 79175the way they try to convince that navalny is a true opposition leader and everyone who doesn't think this way is a kremlebot is very suspicious
182 79176the way they try to convince that navalny is not a true opposition leader and everyone who doesn't think this way is an foreign agent is very suspicious
26 Кб, 729x453 183 79197>>9176
In fact he got demoted. Not Oppositionsführer anymore, just "dissident". It has to do something with his statements about american elections.
> navalny is not a true opposition leader
In fact he got demoted. Not Oppositionsführer anymore, just "dissident". It has to do something with his statements about american elections.
184 79199>>9197
Personally, I don't care about the headlines. I try to see the facts, not the subjective attitude of journalists.
Personally, I don't care about the headlines. I try to see the facts, not the subjective attitude of journalists.
187 79204>>9203
It is important to me because I did not yet figure out who was promoted to Oppositionsführer instead.
It is important to me because I did not yet figure out who was promoted to Oppositionsführer instead.
189 79216>>9205
Not so much "like" as "like to watch". Some dumb people watch sports or wrestling, I watch opposition.
Not so much "like" as "like to watch". Some dumb people watch sports or wrestling, I watch opposition.
193 79240>>9238
Nah. Biden is non-actor, which is further complicated by dementia. Not interesting.
I wish Harris would do something funny though.
Nah. Biden is non-actor, which is further complicated by dementia. Not interesting.
I wish Harris would do something funny though.
194 79256>>9240
So, you think politics should be acting? Does it bother you that the fate of people and humanity depends on politics?
So, you think politics should be acting? Does it bother you that the fate of people and humanity depends on politics?
195 79258>>9256
Politics are acting. I compared it with wrestling for a reason.
Desicions are made by other people, not politicians.
Those ones are no fun, they are a scary bunch.
>So, you think politics should be acting?
Politics are acting. I compared it with wrestling for a reason.
Desicions are made by other people, not politicians.
Those ones are no fun, they are a scary bunch.
199 79264>>9262
Usually people with such beliefs can not say what kind of people they are. I think if you see these secret rulers, you will again say that they do not solve anything and they are controlled by someone even more powerful and more hidden. It comes not from your understanding of things, but from feeling of your own helplessness. The mechanism of psychological projection says: if I am helpless, then they are helpless too. And secret rulers are introduced only to be an undefined source of oppression.
Usually people with such beliefs can not say what kind of people they are. I think if you see these secret rulers, you will again say that they do not solve anything and they are controlled by someone even more powerful and more hidden. It comes not from your understanding of things, but from feeling of your own helplessness. The mechanism of psychological projection says: if I am helpless, then they are helpless too. And secret rulers are introduced only to be an undefined source of oppression.
202 79279>>9278
So you are no conspiracy theorist. You are positive that literal actors Reagan, Zelensly, Evdokimov make meaningful decisions. And of course so do people who are not literal actors but occupy the same offices.
If there are no "imaginary leaders" at all, humanity is doomed, it is essentially headless chichen, still running around for some reason.
So you are no conspiracy theorist. You are positive that literal actors Reagan, Zelensly, Evdokimov make meaningful decisions. And of course so do people who are not literal actors but occupy the same offices.
If there are no "imaginary leaders" at all, humanity is doomed, it is essentially headless chichen, still running around for some reason.
203 79281>>9279
Politics does not require a level of competence that is unattainable for an actor. Only an IQ of about 110 is desirable, although Russia manages with 90.
Politics does not require a level of competence that is unattainable for an actor. Only an IQ of about 110 is desirable, although Russia manages with 90.
205 79287>>9282
Depends on the required quality of this politics. If zero quality is required, then a complete lack of competence is acceptable. There are many examples in Africa and the Arab countries.
Depends on the required quality of this politics. If zero quality is required, then a complete lack of competence is acceptable. There are many examples in Africa and the Arab countries.
206 79288>>9287
Politics are wrestling so anything is fine as long as it is entertaining.
>Depends on the required quality of this politics.
Politics are wrestling so anything is fine as long as it is entertaining.
207 79289>>9288
Only for an audience that can't find better entertainment. The rest of the people prefer to see things like improving their standard of living, growing the economy, and reducing of the crime rate. And they will prefer it to dubious entertainment.
Only for an audience that can't find better entertainment. The rest of the people prefer to see things like improving their standard of living, growing the economy, and reducing of the crime rate. And they will prefer it to dubious entertainment.
210 79294>>9292
They do not. And thats a real shame. You don't go to clown or TV star to cure your teeth or build your house, so it is strange to seek betterment of life from politician.
They do not. And thats a real shame. You don't go to clown or TV star to cure your teeth or build your house, so it is strange to seek betterment of life from politician.
211 79296>>9294
Of course not. Betterment comes not from politicians. Betterment is the natural course of things. A good politician differs from a bad one only in that it does not interfere with this process.
Of course not. Betterment comes not from politicians. Betterment is the natural course of things. A good politician differs from a bad one only in that it does not interfere with this process.
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213 79299>>9296
Nah.
Good politician makes a good show.
Bad politician is not interesting to watch.
Both have no means to "interfere" with anything. Neither do acrobats, standup comedy dudes etc.
>A good politician differs from a bad on
Nah.
Good politician makes a good show.
Bad politician is not interesting to watch.
Both have no means to "interfere" with anything. Neither do acrobats, standup comedy dudes etc.
215 79340>>9301
As expected. You have nothing to make your point but shitty "irony", calling influential people imaginary and posting funny pics. So much for all that opposition talk, mr. non conspiracy theorist. I'll give you +15 before you post it yourself.
As expected. You have nothing to make your point but shitty "irony", calling influential people imaginary and posting funny pics. So much for all that opposition talk, mr. non conspiracy theorist. I'll give you +15 before you post it yourself.
216 79343>>9340
The burden of proof is on the approver. You didn't even name those "influential people," let alone prove them more influential than the politicians.
The burden of proof is on the approver. You didn't even name those "influential people," let alone prove them more influential than the politicians.
217 79348>>9343
Could you call Michael Jackson influential? Yes.
Will you agree that he makes world-changing desicions? I think not.
Same thing with politicians.
Could you call Michael Jackson influential? Yes.
Will you agree that he makes world-changing desicions? I think not.
Same thing with politicians.
219 79350>>9349
I don't know them.
That's the difference between religious belief and science. Only believers never say that they don't know something... yet.
I don't know them.
That's the difference between religious belief and science. Only believers never say that they don't know something... yet.
221 79352>>9351
Politicians are actors and clowns so, someone has to run all by himself. Otherwise
Politicians are actors and clowns so, someone has to run all by himself. Otherwise
>humanity is doomed
222 79399>>9352
That is, you proceed from your belief in a just world and your subjective assessment of politicians as "clowns". This is a weak foundation.
That is, you proceed from your belief in a just world and your subjective assessment of politicians as "clowns". This is a weak foundation.
224 79404>>9401
I'll remind you of your post
You say:
So this is your
And also you say:
Why he has to? Not because world is just? When why?
I'll remind you of your post
>Politicians are actors and clowns so, someone has to run all by himself. Otherwise
>>humanity is doomed
You say:
>Politicians are actors and clowns
So this is your
>your subjective assessment of politicians as "clowns"
And also you say:
>someone has to run all by himself
Why he has to? Not because world is just? When why?
225 79405>>9404
World order is still standing somehow despite incompetence of people who claim that they rule it, as simple as that. Either there are hidden masters, we are incredible lucky, or we are already dead - just don't know yet. None of these possibilities calls for just world.
>Why he has to?
World order is still standing somehow despite incompetence of people who claim that they rule it, as simple as that. Either there are hidden masters, we are incredible lucky, or we are already dead - just don't know yet. None of these possibilities calls for just world.
229 79464>>9415
Nothing is truly antienthropic, antienthropism means that you have to widen the scope to account for additional sources of enthropy. Life itself may seem antienthropic if we look at Earth and sunlight just magically appears there. Now look at the solar system; Sun's innards composition steadily drifts to stable iron, vastly "outenthroping" all terran "antienthropism".
Nothing is truly antienthropic, antienthropism means that you have to widen the scope to account for additional sources of enthropy. Life itself may seem antienthropic if we look at Earth and sunlight just magically appears there. Now look at the solar system; Sun's innards composition steadily drifts to stable iron, vastly "outenthroping" all terran "antienthropism".
230 79466>>9464
The Sun isn’t alive, you know? Only life is alive and antienthropic.
Can you tell me which of the normal human activities requires some special control? Exchange of goods money and services? Even chimpanzees can do it(yes, they can. yes, I have proof). Keep order? Chimpanzees can do that. And from politicians, in order not to mess up too much, they only need to be in their place and not to press the red button. Chimpanzees can do that, too. Even if someone runs away from his seat, like Yanukovich, people will easily appoint a new government.
Since the beginning of history, humanity has not needed any secret government, and you say that at some point it suddenly needed it?
Man, I thought you are a kremlin bot, but now I see you're too autistic to have a job.
The Sun isn’t alive, you know? Only life is alive and antienthropic.
Can you tell me which of the normal human activities requires some special control? Exchange of goods money and services? Even chimpanzees can do it(yes, they can. yes, I have proof). Keep order? Chimpanzees can do that. And from politicians, in order not to mess up too much, they only need to be in their place and not to press the red button. Chimpanzees can do that, too. Even if someone runs away from his seat, like Yanukovich, people will easily appoint a new government.
Since the beginning of history, humanity has not needed any secret government, and you say that at some point it suddenly needed it?
Man, I thought you are a kremlin bot, but now I see you're too autistic to have a job.
231 79468>>9466
Nothing is really antienthropic. You can not decieve enthropy. Everything will become dust and die unless counteracted by raising enthropy somewhere else instead. If (most of) societies do not fall back to tribal state despite seemingly incompetent politicians, something fullfills here the same role as has Sun for "antienthropic life". Enter: hidden masters.
It needed it when it grew beyond chimp band size. In Egypt, priests were the people behind the Pharaoh. Putin is not allmighty dictator, he is figurehead. Biden is demential but thats ok, he decides nothing too.
>The Sun isn’t alive, you know? Only life is alive and antienthropic.
Nothing is really antienthropic. You can not decieve enthropy. Everything will become dust and die unless counteracted by raising enthropy somewhere else instead. If (most of) societies do not fall back to tribal state despite seemingly incompetent politicians, something fullfills here the same role as has Sun for "antienthropic life". Enter: hidden masters.
>Since the beginning of history, humanity has not needed any secret government, and you say that at some point it suddenly needed it?
It needed it when it grew beyond chimp band size. In Egypt, priests were the people behind the Pharaoh. Putin is not allmighty dictator, he is figurehead. Biden is demential but thats ok, he decides nothing too.
232 79469>>9466
And one more point I just have to stress.
How do you call me autistic for my hidden masters while you see kremlim bots everywhere, even on one on the most obscure boards? You are schizo for real.
>Man, I thought you are a kremlin bot
And one more point I just have to stress.
How do you call me autistic for my hidden masters while you see kremlim bots everywhere, even on one on the most obscure boards? You are schizo for real.
233 79470>>9469
You visit /zog/, don't you? Have you noticed people with mental disorders there? Well, you're one of them.
You visit /zog/, don't you? Have you noticed people with mental disorders there? Well, you're one of them.
234 79471>>9469
I was thinking about the kremlin bots because there is one here, and I confused you with him.
I was thinking about the kremlin bots because there is one here, and I confused you with him.
235 79472>>9468
Weren't they public people? What made them go underground later? Now we also have priests, and they participate in the administration, and do not hide.
>In Egypt, priests were the people behind the Pharaoh
Weren't they public people? What made them go underground later? Now we also have priests, and they participate in the administration, and do not hide.
236 79473>>9468
You're a meme-minded person. Biden does not have dementia, his oddities in speech are explained by dyslexia, which he has from a young age.
>Biden is demential
You're a meme-minded person. Biden does not have dementia, his oddities in speech are explained by dyslexia, which he has from a young age.
237 79474>>9472
They were, but you miss the point. Pharaoh was literal God, and, while priests held much official power indeed, it was a blasphemy to suggest that priests rule the literal God. Which they did.
World has changed, importance of religion was supplanted by other things and so shifted "mastery". Nowdays priests are akin to politicians.
>>9470
I visited it once or twice, but they are retarded and mostly generate informational noise as does your beloved kremlin botfarm. It's like these ideas are breeded to conceal one between them, don't you think?
>>9471
Kremlin bots seekers are schizos, no exception. I was called kremlin bot hundreds of times even in discussions irrelevant to politics. These people are ill, they need some kind of pills.
>Weren't they public people?
They were, but you miss the point. Pharaoh was literal God, and, while priests held much official power indeed, it was a blasphemy to suggest that priests rule the literal God. Which they did.
>What made them go underground later? Now we also have priests, and they participate in the administration, and do not hide.
World has changed, importance of religion was supplanted by other things and so shifted "mastery". Nowdays priests are akin to politicians.
>>9470
I visited it once or twice, but they are retarded and mostly generate informational noise as does your beloved kremlin botfarm. It's like these ideas are breeded to conceal one between them, don't you think?
>>9471
Kremlin bots seekers are schizos, no exception. I was called kremlin bot hundreds of times even in discussions irrelevant to politics. These people are ill, they need some kind of pills.
238 79476>>9474
Or maybe not.
>World has changed, importance of religion was supplanted by other things and so shifted "mastery". Nowdays priests are akin to politicians.
Or maybe not.
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244 79488>>9481
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247 79492 249 79494>>9493
It is not enough to justify calling me kremlebot. Kremlebots are your invisible masters.
It is not enough to justify calling me kremlebot. Kremlebots are your invisible masters.
250 79496>>9494
I only said that I thought you were a Kremlebot at first. There is one here with a similar style of communication.
I only said that I thought you were a Kremlebot at first. There is one here with a similar style of communication.
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