Коротко о каждом нашем треде:
1)Душеебы и ахтунги - борьба продолжается.
2)Прохожу Возвращение - хавайте скрины и мои полыхания всем тредом.
3)Какой же кринжовый этот ваш Ризен. Мнение ИКС-пертов из /v/.
4)Напоминатель напоминает. Репорт.
5)И при чем тут Ведьмак 3? Да ты не шаришь в тру рпг, попробуй Одиссею. Серьезные споры на серьезные темы.
6)А я беру лом и иду чистить карту, а могу взять и двустволку. Почему новый Дум/любая хуйня нейм больше рпг, чем Элекс.
7)Хлебни-ка мыльца. Нет, ты, и давай-ка пруфай 4к скринами. Помянем! Судя по всему окончательные поминки 4к кунов.
8)Я щитаю, что вы не улавливаете сути Готики. Врыв старика. Грамотный разбор ситуации.
9)Рпг про выбор. Нет, рпг про прокачку. Продолжение серьезных споров на серьезные темы.
10)Зачем куда-то бежать и что-то делать, если можно просто варить похлебку на ферме? Экзистенциальные вопросы от бывалых.
11)Бугурт от бугуртов. Классика.
12)Хули так душно, цветасто. ИКС-перты наносят ответный удар.
13)Шо там у поляков? Все заебись. Короткий обзор шина.
14)Нам нужно построить больше боссов. Большой переполох в маленьком Извращении.
15)Есть намлок? А если найду? Где управление? Очевидно - на геймпаде. Игра-то консольная. Даже круг выбора хоткеев специально под стик заточен... и другие изумительные проблемы современного поколения.
16)Конспирация и диалоги на заднеприводные темы. Душеебы и ахтунги становятся лисами.
17)Готика 2 это сон Диего. Ероха-Барток ходит на охоту без ГГ. Дарон и Зурис сношаются во тьме ночной, но не при свете дня. Вайран не собирал болотник, он вкачивал саммонинг на шершнях. Генерал ебал полутруп королевны, считая, что это ролевые игры. Притчи, мифы, сказки, и прочие иносказания от завсегдатых треда.
18)Как я буду вилкой-то убивать дракона-то? Провокационные вбросы от Умственно Могучего Анона.
19)В ремейк никто не будет играть. Кряяя. Ряяя. Бряяяя. Да я лучше Элекс 2 предзакажу. Мгяяя. Пряяя. Аляяя. Щас бы в 2к467-ом оформлять предзаказы. Джигурда, сковорода, пизда. Хуй? - хуй! Дебаты гендерных меньшинств и помешанных на утках зоофилов.

>>4095944
Тезисы обзора

Notes, and summarizing/breaking it up into further parts with timestamps.
Timestamps/Highlights from the Introduction
1:28-2:41 People want a Gothic remake, but this fails to meet expectations in several regards.
2:41-3:14 Obviously there will be differences. Change can be good, but some of the things they've modified are very detrimental to the experience.

Timestamps/Highlights from Immersion
3:14-4:37 Gothic was open-ended and immersive. The remake is neither.
4:37-6:04 Excessive on-screen prompts. Controls should be consistent enough that prompts should not be necessary.
6:04-7:49 Contrasting interactability, prompts, and object highlights from the remake to the original. The original was better in almost every way, but may have used some methods that might not translate well into a more modern video game... But it would still be better than the direction they've taken it in the remake.
7:50-8:52 An almost complete lack of freedom of exploration and movement. The original game world had enough natural barriers that invisible walls should not be necessary.
8:53-11:01 Bad artificial barriers. More on a lack of freedom of movement and exploration. Somewhat poor and non-discrete world design. Also floating object markers. Basic crouch walking adds some potential for additional hidden areas and movement, but at the expense of more open climbing and swimming mechanics.
11:01-11:55 Bad and intrusive UI elements. Auto-hiding is nice when the displayed resources are not in use. (They should really just add options that players can customize for UI element positions, maybe size, and whether or not they auto-hide.)
11:56-14:24 The original game's UI elements tended to be on the fringes of the screen and non-intrusive, menus would not pause, examining objects like books and maps was immersive. One bad thing about the original game's inventory was that it required a lot of scrolling as items were only ever displayed in one column at a time. The remake's menus take you out of the experience completely. The remake's journals and books look nice, but should be taken out of the menus.
14:25-15:06 Groundwork for Quest tracking and markers are bad signs. The original gave you enough direction from dialogue and context clues that hand-holding was not necessary and it encouraged exploration.
15:07-16:22 More bad and intrusive UI elements. Made worse due to being redundant. Often distracting.
16:23-16:50 Bad dialogue interface.
16:51-18:22 Strict, non-immersive tutorial pop-ups with videos. Contrasted to immersive in-world tutorialization of actions that can be taken or that should be avoided often through dialogue.
18:07-20:52 Loudmouth protagonist that talks too much, especially to himself... and to the player? Contrasted to the snarky and quippy protagonist who, despite those characteristics and personality, largely only spoke when appropriate with his inner monologue relegated to the quest journal.
20:53-22:04 Excessive cut scenes and restriction of player control.

Timestamps/Highlights from Combat
22:04-25:06 In theory an improvement/expansion on the original. Reliance on UI elements is bad for immersion. Slow, sluggish, clunky, unresponsive, inconsistent. Camera and environment often annoying. Camera, character model, and UI elements synced poorly they move too much and are difficult to follow.
25:07-25:50 Obviously designed for controllers in mind. Feels bad with mouse & keyboard.
25:51-26:41 It all feels clunky and unpolished, but it's possible that's intentional.
26:42-27:47 He believes it could work well if the UI elements were removed, and the animations were made more broad, telegraphed, or exaggerated, with attack patterns that could be learned per enemy type... But also faster and more action oriented.
27:48-28:09 The camera in combat is bad. It should be fixed and made more consistent with the camera outside of combat.
28:10-28:52 The combat is drastically different from the original, most fans will probably hate it. He likes the concept of it, but not the execution of it. It could easily be scrapped for something more similar to Piranha Bytes' games. It should still have progression for animations, combos, and damage thresholds.

Timestamps/Highlights from Hand-Holding
28:53-32:10 The remake feels like a highly restrictive and highly scripted tutorial. Intrusive UI elements pop up to tell you everything you're expected to do. You are either made incapable of performing certain actions, or the actions you take prompt no reaction from the characters or have little to no impact on the environment.
32:11-34:15 Enemies that should pose a serious threat to an untrained nobody are too easy to defeat, especially for being level 0 with a broken sword. It makes the progression of power feel lacking compared to the original.

Timestamps/Highlights from Story/Setting
34:16-34:32 Scavengers and Snappers are now too similar, they used to be distinct from one another.
34:32-34:49 All creatures are now automatically aggressive rather than getting defensive and just trying to scare you off. Bad for immersion.
34:49-36:36 Enemy placement compared to the original doesn't make sense.
36:36-37:38 Changes to the course of events in the name of flash and dramatization might not mesh well with the original plot/course of events.
37:38-39:10 Changes to the introduction display less of the character's personality, and also provides little to no motivation or incentive to carry out what was one of the original game's first major objectives.
39:10-40:22 The barrier cannot be interacted with, and also feels like it plays less of an important role in the story and environment.

Timestamps/Highlights from Atmosphere
40:23-49:42 The original game was overall presented in a more bleak and hostile manner, particularly with washed out colors and a dying, foggy world within the barrier overcast by dark clouds. The remake is too bright, colorful, and pretty. Disabling some post-processing effects aids somewhat in bringing it more in-line with the original game's aesthetic and tone.
41:56-44:55 The environment is supposed to be daunting and dangerous. But everything in the remake is intended to be beaten upon your first encounter. The starting sequence and cut scenes are made to give the appearance of danger, but are not representative of the actual game. You should be forced to fail or run before getting rescued.
44:56-49:42 Characters in the remake are too kind, refined, and optimistic. For the most part they're supposed to be hostile or neutral, unrefined convicts. Shown by their voices, actions, and their attitudes.
48:47-49:02 The pauses in Diego's dialogue lines are only detrimental.

Timestamps/Highlights from Quest
49:42-51:31 The prompts for one of the quests makes sense. Another seems forced. Quests having choices with potentially long-term consequences is nice. (I personally felt they were trying too hard to be similar to Mass Effect or The Witcher.)

Timestamps/Hightlights from Music
51:32-53:37 Needs less generic and dramatic orchestrated music. Needs more original Gothic music. Combat music is over the top, definitely sounds like it's trying to be The Witcher 3. Original basically didn't even have combat music, it didn't need it.

Timestamps/Highlights from Technical Issues
53:38-54:39 Inconsistent controls. Incorrect UI elements. Manual save feature has no effect as the remake reverts back to checkpoints. Horrible optimization.

Timestamps/Highlights from Conclusions
54:40-56:47 Most changes are a bit much, but some of them are nice. Discussing the positives, particularly focusing on implementation of elements of Gothic canon. Talking about changes that could/should be made.

>>4095958

> 4:37-6:04 Excessive on-screen prompts. Controls should be consistent enough that prompts should not be necessary.

Лолблядь. Он точно сейчас про ремейк первой готики? Даже здесь, в гототреде, до сих пор всплывают люди, охуевающие с неинтуитивности управления однушки. А тут ему подсказок много.

> 3:14-4:37 Gothic was open-ended and immersive. The remake is neither.

> 7:50-8:52 An almost complete lack of freedom of exploration and movement. The original game world had enough natural barriers that invisible walls should not be necessary.

Этот долбоеб вообще в курсе что он играл в крошечную демку с парой локаций и десятком мобов? Он, наверное, даже не дошёл до конца. Думал типа там потом ворота откроются, побежишь в старый лагерь, потом в новый. А сразу бежать нельзя, поэтому нет свободы перемещения! Плохо зделоли, тупо!!!

> 8:53-11:01 Bad artificial barriers. More on a lack of freedom of movement and exploration. Somewhat poor and non-discrete world design. Also floating object markers. Basic crouch walking adds some potential for additional hidden areas and movement, but at the expense of more open climbing and swimming mechanics.

Та же хуйня. Барьеры должны быть барьерами, особенно в демке. И даже в ней я изи вылазил за пределы карты. Вот паркур, надеюсь, завезут нормальный, а не тот позор, что был в демке

> 11:01-11:55 Bad and intrusive UI elements. Auto-hiding is nice when the displayed resources are not in use. (They should really just add options that players can customize for UI element positions, maybe size, and whether or not they auto-hide.)

Так, епта, демка же! Спасибо что вообще интерфейс завезли

Всё, я больше не могу это читать. Пробежал глазами, там все претензии сводятся к тому, что это не полноценная финальная игра, а автор не может этого понять. То у него интерфейс хуевый, то в старый лагерь не пускают, то снова интерфейс хуевый. И опять про интерфейс. Как я понял, эту демку сделали чтобы показать поклонникам вектор развития. И чтобы получить от них фидбэк относительно этого вектора.